The Footie Thread

[Orikoru]

Unless, of course, Spurs are signing Gibbs-White; where the deal can be done from start to finish in about 2 hours.

Yeah it goes a lot more smoothly if one of the clubs aren't there.

 

[road2ruin]

From the outside, it seems really bad. It is like the entire Utd board have been away on holiday for the last 6 weeks, and so nothing really has been done.

I appreciate a deal can't be negotiated in a single meeting. But, you'd think it could be done in a fairly short space of time, and if it is clear the selling club doesn;t actually want to sell, or their asking price is higher than you want to pay, you ultimately just walk away, and work on other deals. At this rate, we'll either bring nobody else in, or panic in the last week and pay £80 million for Nicolas Jackson.

And I'd love to know what is happening with the 5 or 6 that we want out of the club. If they are genuinely good players, only hindered by being at Utd, you'd think there would be a queue of interested clubs asking about them, knowing they'd come at a discounted price. Either, clubs are put off by them because they are not actually that good and/or they don't like their attitude. Or Man Utd are demanding ridiculous transfer fees for them, which would be hard to believe.

Perhaps Man Utd really are in a terrible PSR position, and so they really need to offload some players before committing to a higher bid for players they would like to bring in?

It's embarrassing and whilst we don't know the internal workings it certainly doesn't reflect the comments made by Berrada in the winter regarding the plans for the future. He was claiming that they have a summer plan which will depend on what happens in the remainder of the season but the plans will be in place for every eventuality. It's just not panning out like that and, at present, INEOS are looking, at best, naive and, at worst, incompetent.

 

[Aztecs27]

What's wrong with a player having ambition at wanting to move to a bigger club? Spurs have had that countless teams over the years with our best players joining Real Madrid or Man Utd. It's just what happens.

Absolutely nothing at all. But the fact the club have been actively trying to get him to sign a new contract since last summer, which he's refused...whilst in the next breath crying on video celebrating 100 appearances for Forest saying there's nowhere else he'd rather play...it's a flat out lie. Because clearly he DOES want to play elsewhere if he's not willing to sign a new contract.

Had he not said anything about not wanting to play anywhere else, no one would have questioned it.

100% of Forest fans know he wouldn't be our player forever, but the way he seems to have orchestrated a move away doesn't sit well with the fanbase.

Had he signed a new contract sometime in the last 12 months (making him the highest paid player at the club) and gone when someone swoops in for him, we'd all wish him well.

 

[Swango1980]

It's embarrassing and whilst we don't know the internal workings it certainly doesn't reflect the comments made by Berrada in the winter regarding the plans for the future. He was claiming that they have a summer plan which will depend on what happens in the remainder of the season but the plans will be in place for every eventuality. It's just not panning out like that and, at present, INEOS are looking, at best, naive and, at worst, incompetent.

They may have had a plan. What they are finding out, however, that other clubs will not necessarily play along with that plan. Both in terms of selling their players, or buying yours. That is where the skill lies, and they are not yet demonstrating a lot of talent in that area of negotiation and adaptability.

 

[Aztecs27]

This looks like the face of a player who's just been made the highest earner in club history. What a saga

I will say - IF my theory (in previous posts) about him engineering a move are completely wrong, then I'll happily eat my hat. As I've said....EVERYTHING being reported is pure speculation from Social Media "ITKs"...but I've tried to make sense of the whole situation and put 2 and 2 together.

 

[nickjdavis]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945778389828120691

Looks like Isak isn’t going to force the move ( which imo is good ) and with Newcastle saying he isn’t for sale club have moved on to Ekitike

...and the striker merry go round continues as Newcastle allegedly turn their attention to Wissa. Wouldnt mind him, 19 goals in the PL last season shows he can do it at that level. With the pace up front we've got, he would get plenty of opportunities.

Just at 29 I hope we dont (if we do go in for him) pay over the odds. Maybe we need Brentford to do the decent thing and pay Ipswich their full asking price in one lump that might free up Wissa to leave.

 

[Don Barzini]

This looks like the face of a player who's just been made the highest earner in club history. What a saga

IF (and that's a big "if") this turns out to be the case, the Spurs fans head loss on Twitter will be generational!

 

[Orikoru]

IF (and that's a big "if") this turns out to be the case, the Spurs fans head loss on Twitter will be generational!

Really? I wouldn't have thought we'd be too bothered to miss out on him personally. He plays in a position that isn't a priority to strengthen.

 

[nickjdavis]

Wyn "The Leap" Davies (Newcastle United, Manchester City, Manchester United, Wrexham and Bolton) has passed away at the age of 83.

As they used to sing on the terraces at St. James' Park...

"Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Wyn"

RIP

 

[Don Barzini]

Really? I wouldn't have thought we'd be too bothered to miss out on him personally. He plays in a position that isn't a priority to strengthen.

You want to check out the Spurs Twitter timeline.

 

[Billysboots]

Sounds like United have finally got their fingers out and made another bid for Mbeumo, no doubt having been “encouraged” to act by the rumours relating to Wissa.

£65m plus £5m add ons. If Brentford turn it down I hope we are sensible enough to walk away.

 

[Aztecs27]

Sounds like United have finally got their fingers out and made another bid for Mbeumo, no doubt having been “encouraged” to act by the rumours relating to Wissa.

£65m plus £5m add ons. If Brentford turn it down I hope we are sensible enough to walk away.

So essentially negotiated for the last 4 weeks to arrive at the original fee that Brentford were after.

 

[Billysboots]

So essentially negotiated for the last 4 weeks to arrive at the original fee that Brentford were after.

I think Brentford actually upped the price by £5m.

 

[road2ruin]

I think Brentford actually upped the price by £5m.

To be fair with the deals that gone done in the meantime you can't really blame them. Had we not farted about so much we'd have probably got the deal done earlier and for a little less.

 

[Billysboots]

To be fair with the deals that gone done in the meantime you can't really blame them. Had we not farted about so much we'd have probably got the deal done earlier and for a little less.

I think that, for once, United stuck to their guns. It obviously got them nowhere, however, as they still caved in in the end

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Sounds like United have finally got their fingers out and made another bid for Mbeumo, no doubt having been “encouraged” to act by the rumours relating to Wissa.

£65m plus £5m add ons. If Brentford turn it down I hope we are sensible enough to walk away.

£65mil - that’s a decent price when you look at how much Madueke costs

 

[road2ruin]

I think that, for once, United stuck to their guns. It obviously got them nowhere, however, as they still caved in in the end

I wonder whether the Wissa rumour gave them a nudge? Either Newcastle were genuinely enquiring or Brentford thought they’d start their own rumour that they were?!

 

[nickjdavis]

I wonder whether the Wissa rumour gave them a nudge? Either Newcastle were genuinely enquiring or Brentford thought they’d start their own rumour that they were?!

Its always difficult for us fans to figure out what truly is going on or has gone on unless we have some sort of inside track at the club we support.

Unfortunately, in the old days, transfers were reported on when they were done. The press, in whatever form, in the old days reported on the news. Now in the old days, things were different, you had national daily news papers, maybe a local evening paper, some light hearted lunchtime news, the main news bulletin at 6pm and then the late evening news at 9 or 10pm which usually expanded on the earlier news stories if there was any change, or simply reported on lesser news items that didn't make the 6pm news edition.

It was a big thing if one newspaper got hold of a juicy story and was able to publish before their rivals....the old journalistic "scoop"....and it was possible with such fragmented "reporting windows".

Nowadays with 24hr rolling live news across a multitude of outlets, some less judicious about what they report than others, it seems to me that the media outlets are more focused on MAKING the news, trying to influence what happens and partly trying to "foretell" what is going to happen...in effect guessing, so they can claim to be ahead of the curve. Never has the desire to generate clicks resulted in such a disservice to those who follow the news...no one knows what to believe.

 

[RichA]

Its always difficult for us fans to figure out what truly is going on or has gone on unless we have some sort of inside track at the club we support.

Unfortunately, in the old days, transfers were reported on when they were done. The press, in whatever form, in the old days reported on the news. Now in the old days, things were different, you had national daily news papers, maybe a local evening paper, some light hearted lunchtime news, the main news bulletin at 6pm and then the late evening news at 9 or 10pm which usually expanded on the earlier news stories if there was any change, or simply reported on lesser news items that didn't make the 6pm news edition.

It was a big thing if one newspaper got hold of a juicy story and was able to publish before their rivals....the old journalistic "scoop"....and it was possible with such fragmented "reporting windows".

Nowadays with 24hr rolling live news across a multitude of outlets, some less judicious about what they report than others, it seems to me that the media outlets are more focused on MAKING the news, trying to influence what happens and partly trying to "foretell" what is going to happen...in effect guessing, so they can claim to be ahead of the curve. Never has the desire to generate clicks resulted in such a disservice to those who follow the news...no one knows what to believe.

Add to that half the articles on the internet seeming to be AI summaries of other stories, imperfectly cobbled together, riddled with errors and untruths and "written by" a journalist who doesn't exist.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

...and the striker merry go round continues as Newcastle allegedly turn their attention to Wissa. Wouldnt mind him, 19 goals in the PL last season shows he can do it at that level. With the pace up front we've got, he would get plenty of opportunities.

Just at 29 I hope we dont (if we do go in for him) pay over the odds. Maybe we need Brentford to do the decent thing and pay Ipswich their full asking price in one lump that might free up Wissa to leave.

Think Wissa is a very good player

If Brentford lose him and Mbuemo along with the manager then next season could be a massive battle for them