The Footie Thread

[Arthur Wedge]

I don’t normally comment on these things as it’s always rumours and innuendo but this screams of the owner has been caught out by the release clause and is desperately trying to save face with the fans or get spurs (or someone else) to pay the £100mil they think he’s worth

Edit. Forest have never tapped another player up then?

If there is a release clause then there is nothing Forest can do if it’s met

The problem is if they haven’t activated the clause they can’t official speak to the player

 

[Aztecs27]

I don’t normally comment on these things as it’s always rumours and innuendo but this screams of the owner has been caught out by the release clause and is desperately trying to save face with the fans or get spurs (or someone else) to pay the £100mil they think he’s worth

Edit. Forest have never tapped another player up then?

to my knowledge, we've never triggered the release clause for another player that we shouldn't have known about, because we were given the release clause information by someone outside the club.

He's not worth £100m btw. £80m at the very most.

 

[Aztecs27]

If there is a release clause then there is nothing Forest can do if it’s met

The problem is if they haven’t activated the clause they can’t official speak to the player

Yep, this.

The move isn't the issue - it's how they've done it.

Forest weren't aware Spurs were triggering the clause (and had a medical booked) before it broke on Social Media. So zero contact was made to the club directly - which seems to be the case, because of the debacle of the kit release yesterday - with Gibbs-White heavily involved in the promotional material and them then having to completely change it last minute to something unrelated to what they teased 9 hours earlier.

 

[Bdill93]

Palace demoted to Europa Conference League next season!!!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Palace demoted to Europa Conference League next season!!!

Forest to get their Europa spot ?

 

[Bdill93]

Forest to get their Europa spot ?

Its not on the Sky Sports post yet but I imagine so!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Its not on the Sky Sports post yet but I imagine so!

Looks like their appeal worked then

 

[Aztecs27]

Looks like their appeal worked then

Forest? We didn't appeal. Club wrote to UEFA asking to get clarity on the situation so that they can prepare their off-season accordingly.

 

[Aztecs27]

What an absolutely bonkers day by the way. Christ.

 

[venger]

to my knowledge, we've never triggered the release clause for another player that we shouldn't have known about, because we were given the release clause information by someone outside the club.

He's not worth £100m btw. £80m at the very most.

The tapping up line was an attempt at sarcasm which always comes across well when written down

 

[Arthur Wedge]

to my knowledge, we've never triggered the release clause for another player that we shouldn't have known about, because we were given the release clause information by someone outside the club.

He's not worth £100m btw. £80m at the very most.

Every club has had “conversations” with players agents

 

[Aztecs27]

The tapping up line was an attempt at sarcasm which always comes across well when written down

apologies sir!

The main point isn't around the tapping up/reaching out to the player here.

The issue is Spurs have somehow offered the exact amount of the release clause - which is a.) confidential unless there is permission to disclose by the club and b.) a lot less than he's realistically worth.

So Spurs have somehow (i.e. through his agent or the player himself) been made aware of the release clause value without any contact with the club.

Added to that, a medical has been scheduled less than 24 hours later....all without the club knowing anything about it. If someone can't see how that's not within the rules, I don't really know what to say.

 

[Aztecs27]

Every club has had “conversations” with players agents

Indeed, see my last post.

 

[Bdill93]

apologies sir!

The main point isn't around the tapping up/reaching out to the player here.

The issue is Spurs have somehow offered the exact amount of the release clause - which is a.) confidential unless there is permission to disclose by the club and b.) a lot less than he's realistically worth.

So Spurs have somehow (i.e. through his agent or the player himself) been made aware of the release clause value without any contact with the club.

Added to that, a medical has been scheduled less than 24 hours later....all without the club knowing anything about it. If someone can't see how that's not within the rules, I don't really know what to say.

Whilst I agree this clearly happened - I think its just the standard practise these days! Albeit not within the actual rules of the game but 100% the new normal.

 

[Aztecs27]

Whilst I agree this clearly happened - I think its just the standard practise these days! Albeit not within the actual rules of the game but 100% the new normal.

But it's also why Olise didn't end up at Chelsea, signed a new deal and then ended up ay Bayern...so there's precedent set for Forest's (legitimate) complaint.

He won't sign a new contract with forest off the back of this by the way. If it's been handled how it's been handled and he's had any direct involvement, he's burned all bridges.

As a side note....This would be absolutely hilarious;

 

[clubchamp98]

Yea, we've still profited from him, so it's positive in that regard and if he didn't want to stay, then makes sense to move him on....but it's clearly come from nowhere otherwise the club wouldn't have spent weeks shooting the new shirt promo stuff with him in it.

Or he just hasn’t told them of an approach behind closed doors !

But not good if he knew before shooting the video he was leaving.

 

[Swango1980]

apologies sir!

The main point isn't around the tapping up/reaching out to the player here.

The issue is Spurs have somehow offered the exact amount of the release clause - which is a.) confidential unless there is permission to disclose by the club and b.) a lot less than he's realistically worth.

So Spurs have somehow (i.e. through his agent or the player himself) been made aware of the release clause value without any contact with the club.

Added to that, a medical has been scheduled less than 24 hours later....all without the club knowing anything about it. If someone can't see how that's not within the rules, I don't really know what to say.

Are you suggesting that the only way a buying club will even find out about a release clause is if the club who owns the player gives their permission it is disclosed? If that were the case, if a club didn't want to sell a player, they simply deny permission for any club to speak to the player, and that release clause will always remain secret. That seems to make release clauses pretty worthless.

 

[clubchamp98]

Every club has had “conversations” with players agents

Have any clubs been Fined for it ?

 

[RichA]

Are you suggesting that the only way a buying club will even find out about a release clause is if the club who owns the player gives their permission it is disclosed? If that were the case, if a club didn't want to sell a player, they simply deny permission for any club to speak to the player, and that release clause will always remain secret. That seems to make release clauses pretty worthless.

Can you honestly not figure out the simple mechanism by which it would work perfectly? Never used an estate agent?

 

[Swango1980]

Can you honestly not figure out the simple mechanism by which it would work perfectly? Never used an estate agent?

It wasn't be suggesting anything, I was asking the question to someone else's post.

It seems fairly straight forward to me how the release clause value becomes known to an interested club.