The Footie Thread

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Swango1980 said:
Completely agree. And I'd have thought a good agent would try and negotiate a sensible salary for them. One that gives them a good amount of money so that they don't feel they are underpaid (relative their peers at that level), but a salary that leave them lots of room to maximise in the future, and gives the player an incentive to continue to develop and strive for those bigger salaries.
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As agents get a percentage, this idea will never work.
 
Swango1980 said:
I'm not sure if it is something that should come as any surprise. I don't think there is any football club in the land in which you can use a direct relationship between the salary of a single player in your club, and the salaries, bonuses and redundancies that apply to all general staff. Especially clubs that may have hundreds or thousands of staff.
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I think there is a clear message that top level football has lost touch with reality. Would love to know how many PL footballers are on £100k+ per week. Other sports stars can earn that but it is generally performance related such as golf, tennis etc. How many sports pay that kind of money to failures.
 
Need to go back to
Basic pay.
Bonus for playing in first team.
Win bonus.

So someone not even in the match day squad dosnt get paid more than a player scoring the winner or saving a penalty in an actual game.
 
3 jabber said:
I think there is a clear message that top level football has lost touch with reality. Would love to know how many PL footballers are on £100k+ per week. Other sports stars can earn that but it is generally performance related such as golf, tennis etc. How many sports pay that kind of money to failures.
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It's been like this for ages. Sure, wages have sky rocketed in recent years, but players were still doing staggeringly well compared to us in reality back in the 90's.

Their wages are not our reality, but they are the reality of football. Because sponsors, broadcasters and fans are throwing copious amounts of cash at football, and that money has to go somewhere. And it is the footballers who are short in supply (at the very elite end), hence most of the money is thrown towards them. Football probably isn't alone in that either. I don't watch American sports, but Americans love their own sports, have lots of money to spend and so American sports stars also get crazy money. Individual sports like golf and tennis will be different, because the player isn't employed by a team. But, it probably isn't a lot different when you get the likes of Mickelson (already a multi millionaire) demanding a bigger share of the pie, and ultimately a big reason why LIV started and you pretty much now have golfers being rewarded for failure anyway.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Need to go back to
Basic pay.
Bonus for playing in first team.
Win bonus.

So someone not even in the match day squad dosnt get paid more than a player scoring the winner or saving a penalty in an actual game.
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I always thought this would be a good idea in principle. Until a player doesn't get picked, accuses the manager of having a vendetta against him and robbing him of the wages he would be getting if another manager was in charge. I can see it being a recipe for players falling out with managers much more frequently, and causing all sorts of problems in the dressing room and legal battles
 
Swango1980 said:
It's been like this for ages. Sure, wages have sky rocketed in recent years, but players were still doing staggeringly well compared to us in reality back in the 90's.

Their wages are not our reality, but they are the reality of football. Because sponsors, broadcasters and fans are throwing copious amounts of cash at football, and that money has to go somewhere. And it is the footballers who are short in supply (at the very elite end), hence most of the money is thrown towards them. Football probably isn't alone in that either. I don't watch American sports, but Americans love their own sports, have lots of money to spend and so American sports stars also get crazy money. Individual sports like golf and tennis will be different, because the player isn't employed by a team. But, it probably isn't a lot different when you get the likes of Mickelson (already a multi millionaire) demanding a bigger share of the pie, and ultimately a big reason why LIV started and you pretty much now have golfers being rewarded for failure anyway.
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The ridiculous wages are funded by every single person that pays for Sky Sports which is why I watch my sport for free at the golf club.
 
Swango1980 said:
I always thought this would be a good idea in principle. Until a player doesn't get picked, accuses the manager of having a vendetta against him and robbing him of the wages he would be getting if another manager was in charge. I can see it being a recipe for players falling out with managers much more frequently, and causing all sorts of problems in the dressing room and legal battles
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It’s how it used to be!
Rashford wouldn’t like it 😳
 
Bdill93 said:
Bright futures don't deserve 200k a week, proven talents do. Let him earn his money, rewarding players that much too soon has not worked for United.

There's probably only 5 clubs that actually have players on 200+ a week to be fair - United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool.

He'd be on 75k a week at a club like Villa.
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Proven talents get well over £300k a week at top clubs. £200k isn’t far off the market value but, equally, in Mainoo’s case I feel he’s still half a season from proving he’s worth it.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Duran gone for up to £71m apparently. Can't blame Villa for taking that. It gives them a lot of leeway in the summer.
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That's exactly why we "suddenly" bid 70 million.. knowing full well he would be off to Saudi as the money is unmatchable..

The circus is back in town. "We tried"

If we manage to use it as a smoke and mirror for Evan Ferguson to arrive then maybe can live with it

But should have just paid what villa wanted for Duran in the summer
 
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