Slime
Tour Winner
Yes, jumping into the tackle, not the man.
As long as his timing is good there's really nothing to worry about.
If his timing is bad, then he's in trouble, as is potentially anyone whose commiting a badly timed tackle.
As long as his timing is good there's really nothing to worry about.
If his timing is bad, then he's in trouble, as is potentially anyone whose commiting a badly timed tackle.
RichA
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If I had ever been dumb enough to blah that I was tougher than Traore I'd try a little harder to look stoical after bouncing off him and falling on my arse while attempting a psycho tackle.
Swango1980
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That's a bit of a school playground mentality in looking at it, is it not? What do you mean blag that he was tougher than Traore!? Did he come out in an interview after and make such a claim?
I simply just saw him get into the path of Traore's run to try and stop him. And, if you get hurt, you get hurt. Might come as a surprise, but footballers aren't always pretending to be hurt.
Swango1980
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Just read that David Coote has come out as gay, and that was one of his primary excuse's for being on cocaine, as he struggled to hide his sexuality.
Given that losing his job meant he'd no longer be in the public eye, it seems odd for him to come out to The Sun now.
The sceptic in me thinks there is a chance he feels it's his only opportunity to potentially resurrect his career. Have some pressure the PGMOL into giving him another chance, as they should be seen supporting gay referees and helping them through the struggles they face.
Mind you, he has probably ruined any chance he had in getting a job in Saudi Arabia.
Given that losing his job meant he'd no longer be in the public eye, it seems odd for him to come out to The Sun now.
The sceptic in me thinks there is a chance he feels it's his only opportunity to potentially resurrect his career. Have some pressure the PGMOL into giving him another chance, as they should be seen supporting gay referees and helping them through the struggles they face.
Mind you, he has probably ruined any chance he had in getting a job in Saudi Arabia.
Swango1980
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And talking of Saudi Arabia, Neymar's career has fizzled out rather dramatically it seems.
Went to Saudi Arabia a couple of years ago, made 3 appearances (in league anyway) and now had his contract terminated
Went to Saudi Arabia a couple of years ago, made 3 appearances (in league anyway) and now had his contract terminated
RichA
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That's exactly how it is. The pair wind each other up on social media. He did it after the previous game.
I'm just saying it was a stupid, recklessly dangerous way to launch into a tackle. Most of those who've commented here and elsewhere say the same.
You and Slime and probably some other Man Utd supporters believe it was perfectly acceptable.
This is why I don't generally engage in conversations about other teams.
Tashyboy
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This a copy of the story on the BBC.
Now what does me is this. He says he hid his sexuality because of the abuse he would get, and he couldn’t handle it. ( Which I understand). But he then goes off to abuse people.
A bloody hypocrite he is.
David Coote: Former referee hid sexuality for fear of abuse
Former Premier League referee David Coote has said he hid his sexuality during his career, fearing the abuse he would receive for being gay.
www.bbc.co.uk
Pin-seeker
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Swango1980
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My view if he jumps in 2 footed in a slide challenge, it is dangerous, as his feet are flying towards Traore's ankles. Or, if Traore was sliding in and Martinez jumped in as he did, also dangerous for same reason.
But, Traore was upright. Martinez jumped in front of him, also in an upright position. He got there before Traore anyway, but never any danger of him breaking an opponents ankle if he was late. Perhaps he'd have stood on his toe.
People get far too wound up when a player jumps onto ground like that, because they remember other situations in history it was actually a danger. To me, he got both feet on ground quickly and tried to brace his position on ground, as he knew Traore is a force to stop. I'm not a defensive coach, so maybe his technique can be reviewed on training ground. But, on this specific incident, as I said, a nothing event. 99.9999% of people can act outraged that it should be a red card, and yet if that was truly the feeling, then I'd 100% expect the authorities to give him a ban. Yet, it is an incident that has barely been talked about in media (relative to other stories), so hardly that controversial. Especially as Martinez scored the winner.
In fairness, I don't go on social media (except on here), so can't comment on what had been said outside what I see on the pitch
Swango1980
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I suppose he'll argue his obvious was intended to be done in private. But, if he was anxious about coming out publicly and the abuse he would receive, you'd think the silver lining of being sacked was that he'd no longer need to worry about this. He'd just be able to revert to living a private life, especially when controversy of his sacking had become yesterdays news.This a copy of the story on the BBC.
Now what does me is this. He says he hid his sexuality because of the abuse he would get, and he couldn’t handle it. ( Which I understand). But he then goes off to abuse people.
A bloody hypocrite he is.
David Coote: Former referee hid sexuality for fear of abuse
Former Premier League referee David Coote has said he hid his sexuality during his career, fearing the abuse he would receive for being gay.
So, to suddenly announce to The Sun that you are gay seems counter productive, unless you have another motivation to reveal this to the public
Swango1980
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I'm guessing it is north of £50 per hour. Perhaps even challenge the hourly fee of a barristerDid you see the breakdown of how much money he made per game/day/hour?
RichA
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Doesn't seem particularly logical that a two-footed sliding tackle would be less dangerous than a two-footed stamp that has the added force of gravity.
I don't do social media either, but I don't live in a vacuum.
Arthur Wedge
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It was a dangerous tackle that was outlawed about 10 years ago plus
Some how Martinez has managed to get away with a few now - the next one he will prob make the right connection onto someone and cause serious injury
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I'm sorry. Jumping in like that is reckless and endangers opponets. Get it slightly wrong and you could end a career.
I wouldn't be able to get the red card out quick enough for these challenges.
Arthur Wedge
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Has for Coote
Even less sympathy for him , I’m sure he made a good fee selling his sob story to that rag
Even less sympathy for him , I’m sure he made a good fee selling his sob story to that rag
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Coote is human . just like everyone else. Yes he was PL referee, but so what?
I can fully understand him keeping his sexuality quiet, Justin Fashanu, NIgel Owens and Gareth Thomas (yes the last 2 are rugby union, but the status is the same) all recieved abuse because they came out gay.
Or is anyone going to say that homophobic (and racial) abuse are a thing of the past now?
I can fully understand him keeping his sexuality quiet, Justin Fashanu, NIgel Owens and Gareth Thomas (yes the last 2 are rugby union, but the status is the same) all recieved abuse because they came out gay.
Or is anyone going to say that homophobic (and racial) abuse are a thing of the past now?
Pin-seeker
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I wouldn’t say it’s a thing of the past,but it’s definitely not as bad is it was back in the day.
Swango1980
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I guess you have forgotten to take into account the relative direction in which the force it applied, hence why I added in my first line scenarios in which it could be considered dangerous.
Swango1980
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I wonder how he has gotten away with it so many times, when it was outlawed?
Does logic apply to your thinking? To be fair, I think we all know what your opinion would be on this specific incident
Arthur Wedge
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I wonder how he has gotten away with it so many times, when it was outlawed?
Does logic apply to your thinking? To be fair, I think we all know what your opinion would be on this specific incident
Can you tell me if every single red card tackle has been punished
