Beezerk
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Can we talk about Man Utd again please 
Tashyboy
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Personally I like the way someone is bigging up there club and being torn to shreds with facts and figures.Can we talk about Man Utd again please
PaulMdj
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Who?
If there’s so many academy players were are they?
He actually made quite a bit money by selling those not good enough! Solanke, Brewster, Williams…
Apart from 1 or 2 players staying and becoming established he bought established players to strengthen your squad.
Arthur Wedge
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Not according to the web - but then we know you pick and choose your sources to match your views
FSG announces strategic minority investment in LFC from Dynasty Equity - Liverpool FC
Fenway Sports Group has announced that global sports investment firm Dynasty Equity has completed a strategic common equity minority investment in Liverpool FC.
www.liverpoolfc.com
“The minority investment will primarily be used to pay down bank debt incurred during the COVID-19 pandemic and capital expenses made to enhance Anfield, build the AXA Training Centre, repurchase Melwood training ground and, most recently, acquisitions during the summer transfer window.”
Arthur Wedge
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Isn’t that how must clubs work
They buy players , sell players
Some youth comes through , some are good enough , some aren’t and are sold on
Is there any club that’s different
Swango1980
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If it wasn't for Amad, then I can guarantee there would be at least one person in here that would have been eager to discuss Man Utd for the next couple of days.Can we talk about Man Utd again please
This is the main reason I was so happy when Amad scored the 2nd and 3rd goals
PaulMdj
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So the only way you could compete with City was to buy and, as I said FSG didn’t give Klopp enough support at times.Isn’t that how must clubs work
They buy players , sell players
Some youth comes through , some are good enough , some aren’t and are sold on
Is there any club that’s different
Now gone full circle, thanks for proving my point, took a while, but we got there in the end.
FSG announces strategic minority investment in LFC from Dynasty Equity - Liverpool FC
Fenway Sports Group has announced that global sports investment firm Dynasty Equity has completed a strategic common equity minority investment in Liverpool FC.
“The minority investment will primarily be used to pay down bank debt incurred during the COVID-19 pandemic and capital expenses made to enhance Anfield, build the AXA Training Centre, repurchase Melwood training ground and, most recently, acquisitions during the summer transfer window.”
To be honest, that doesn’t make the best read. Acquiring investment to pay for players means dividends will be paid out for a lot longer than if it had been done by selling and buying players. The pretty picture you painted around Liverpool’s transfers isn’t quite so pretty. The share prices will rise meaning that whoever bought the shares via investment gets paid twice. Once via the value of the shares, and then topped up with dividends.
The balance sheet will look better but a bit like PFI financing hospitals, it’ll cost more in the long run. It’s all legal and above board but it’s not pretty.
Arthur Wedge
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So the only way you could compete with City was to buy and, as I said FSG didn’t give Klopp enough support at times.
Now gone full circle, thanks for proving my point, took a while, but we got there in the end.
Im struggling to see where your point has been proven
FSG employ people to deal with the football matters
The money for players comes from the revenue the club makes which includes selling players - Klopp worked under the budget the club was able to set.
As stated right at the start - they don’t buy players with their own money , it’s all self sustaining
We missed out on two titles battling with City by a single point.
Every club buys players , some more than others , some spend more than others and as we have seen just by spending more doesnt guarantee success
Orikoru
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I was very chuffed with their result - I put Amad Diallo into my Fantasy team this week! It's about time I got something right this season.Can we talk about Man Utd again please
Arthur Wedge
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Sorry what dividends ? The club don’t pay out dividends.
The club isn’t a public company where shares can be bought and dividends paid out to share holders
The investment helped pay off a credit loan that was taken out to help pay a release clause
Most transfers are in installments - we had to pay one in a lump sum and most clubs take out a credit loan to pay that and then pay it pace in instalments to amortise the fee
Arthur Wedge
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AmandaJR
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Yawn 
PaulMdj
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See my initial reply to Don were I said some supporters had wished FSG had spent more on players. Even said FSG could be admired on how they run the Club.
Im struggling to see where your point has been proven
FSG employ people to deal with the football matters
The money for players comes from the revenue the club makes which includes selling players - Klopp worked under the budget the club was able to set.
As stated right at the start - they don’t buy players with their own money , it’s all self sustaining
We missed out on two titles battling with City by a single point.
Every club buys players , some more than others , some spend more than others and as we have seen just by spending more doesnt guarantee success
All you have done is reinforce the financial position, we know all about the financial side, the point remains that some Lpool supporters believe all this spending in other areas should of been spent on players.
Tashyboy
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A brilliant XI of academy graduates sold by Man City: Palmer, Frimpong, Olise...
Man City have been blessed with world-class players ever since their takeover, which has led some academy graduates to seek pastures new in search of first-team football.
www.teamtalk.com
The £442million Man City have made from selling academy graduates under Pep Guardiola
Manchester City have spent a lot of money – over £1billion, in fact – during Pep Guardiola's time in charge. But while rivals like Manchester United and Arsenal have struggled to raise funds in the transfer market, City's net spend in recent years is comparatively low – thanks to offloading...
www.planetfootball.com
The 24 Academy players who have made their debut under Guardiola
Throughout Pep Guardiola’s period of sustained success at City, the most successful manager in the Club’s history has maintained a commitment to bringing through homegrown talent.
www.mancity.com
Some City get right and some they get wrong. But that’s promoting your academy. That’s giving kids a chance not necessarily at City, but somewhere.
Arthur Wedge
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Spending in what other areas ?
If by that you mean stadium improvements - that all there for the long term and something that should have been done in the 90’s and very much needed
It’s why your own club has built a new one
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The investment was made by someone/group who will require a return. That return might be scheduled as part payment each year + interest. If £80m was invested, the scheduled return will be way more than £80m, just like a bank loan.
You’ve been painting a picture of a balanced budget made with transfer buys covered by sales and commercial activities when in reality, for all your spin, Liverpool FC operate no differently than any other club. They might be more risk averse, or maybe their successes help with the budget, but they’re just a.n.other club.
Arthur Wedge
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The return is they own a percentage of the club which will be worth more when the club is sold - it’s something that’s now in their portfolio to own a small % of the club
The club don’t pay out dividends- it’s there in the accounts
It’s the same with the investment into FSG by Redbird
The accounts are public - purchases are made via revenue from player sales , commercial activities , telly money etc
They aren’t loaning the club money to go and buy players etc it’s all from income generated by the club itself
Don Barzini
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Sorry I asked, everyone! Didn't mean to start a fight! 
Read your post, 73364, specifically the bit in quotation marks that says some of the money was used in the summer transfer window.
