The Footie Thread

[Don Barzini]

It’s one thing being on the wrong end of a subjective decision. Eg if you don’t get given a penalty for a blatant foul, there is always the argument that it was a subjective call on the part of the referee or VAR.

This is completely different. This wasn’t a subjective call or a difference of opinion. The laws of the game are clear on this and the referee applied them incorrectly. He didn’t just make a bad call. He was wrong about the laws of the game, plain and simple. And that error directly led to a goal which cost Forest a point and gifted all three to Liverpool.

In any other walk of life, a fundamental mistake like this would be punished in one way or another. What punishment will Tierney get? Absolutely none, is what my money is going on.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

It’s not the blowing for it, it’s not applying the rules correctly.

I'm not disputing that, but the commentator and pundit both agreed he had been consistent in his blowing for what he thought was a head injury. They both felt there were lots of times for both sides he was a little over zealous, shall we say, for blowing up for what he thought was a head injury.
Perhaps if there was a mandatory off the pitch check (as in Rugby Union) there would be less acting from everyone.

 

[Fade and Die]

Listening to the game on the radio, they did make mention that the ref had been consistent in blowing for what he thought was a head injury, but I don't suppose anyone is really wanting to know thhat.

Ok, But you agree with the rest of my comment?

 

[Don Barzini]

Did Forest give the ball back when there was a head injury for the Forest player ? Earlier in the half

Was this the incident you were talking about when you asked this question? This incident where Yates went down and Forest were in possession/were clearing their lines and when the ball was in our box when the ref stopped the game?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1764233837955985507

 

[hairball_89]

It’s one thing being on the wrong end of a subjective decision. Eg if you don’t get given a penalty for a blatant foul, there is always the argument that it was a subjective call on the part of the referee or VAR.

This is completely different. This wasn’t a subjective call or a difference of opinion. The laws of the game are clear on this and the referee applied them incorrectly. He didn’t just make a bad call. He was wrong about the laws of the game, plain and simple. And that error directly led to a goal which cost Forest a point and gifted all three to Liverpool.

In any other walk of life, a fundamental mistake like this would be punished in one way or another. What punishment will Tierney get? Absolutely none, is what my money is going on.

You win some. You lose some.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It’s one thing being on the wrong end of a subjective decision. Eg if you don’t get given a penalty for a blatant foul, there is always the argument that it was a subjective call on the part of the referee or VAR.

This is completely different. This wasn’t a subjective call or a difference of opinion. The laws of the game are clear on this and the referee applied them incorrectly. He didn’t just make a bad call. He was wrong about the laws of the game, plain and simple. And that error directly led to a goal which cost Forest a point and gifted all three to Liverpool.

In any other walk of life, a fundamental mistake like this would be punished in one way or another. What punishment will Tierney get? Absolutely none, is what my money is going on.

No it didn’t

There were 25 passes/tackles, a throw in inside the Liverpool half, a corner, and Forest had possession twice after that decision

Hudson Odoi had the ball at the edge of your own area and tried to dribble it out - that was a poor choice

Tierney is poor ref - you can highlight many errors from him but when it’s done we are told it’s part of the game

If anything he should have blown up for the foul for the high boot in the area which is dangerous even if it didn’t make contact

When the Forest player went down after being hit on the head Elliot alerted the ref straight away hence why he blew up - did the Forest players do the same - nope

All this talk about cheating and conspiracy to allow Liverpool to win is nonsense- even in time added on Forest were time wasting and had two players booked for it hence the extra minutes after

Forest lost not because of the referee but because they didn’t take their chances

 

[ColchesterFC]

1 But is this a deliberate thing now ? ( giving the keeper the ball) have seen it before but as this led to a goal it’s being highlighted.

If the ball is in the penalty area when the whistle is blown the ball is dropped back to the goalkeeper. If the ball is outside the area it should be dropped to the team that had the ball or returned to them by the opposition.

In this instance Forest had the ball out wide so the correct decision would have been either to drop the ball to a Forest player or to drop it to a Liverpool player for them to return it to Forest. What absolutely shouldn't have happened is a drop ball in the area to the keeper.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Ok, But you agree with the rest of my comment?

Elements of it, yes.
However, if youre expecting me to go all West Ham on it, that won't happen

 

[Fade and Die]

Elements of it, yes.
However, if youre expecting me to go all West Ham on it, that won't happen

See this is the problem people have with LFC fans, they see an incontrovertible fact then deny it!

Yesterday we beat Everton 1-3 but Everton were the better side, (I think Zuma must have kicked a black cat under the team bus) we won because of some great goalkeeping from Cockney sensation Harry Ola, and a big fat kiss on the lips from Lady Luck.

What’s so hard to admit that you won yesterday because of a wrong decision by a referee who all week LFC fans have been saying is useless?

 

[Bunkermagnet]

See this is the problem people have with LFC fans, they see an incontrovertible fact then deny it!

Yesterday we beat Everton 1-3 but Everton were the better side, (I think Zuma must have kicked a black cat under the team bus) we won because of some great goalkeeping from Cockney sensation Harry Ola, and a big fat kiss on the lips from Lady Luck.

What’s so hard to admit that you won yesterday because of a wrong decision by a referee who all week LFC fans have been saying is useless?

Perhaps it's because I take the view that some things go for you, some things don't.
Just as Danns didn't get a penalty when wrestled to the ground yesterday, thats footy and I accept that. Just as I did after the Spurs game.
Lilfe isn't perfect, no matter which team you support or which ref you dislike.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

See this is the problem people have with LFC fans, they see an incontrovertible fact then deny it!

Yesterday we beat Everton 1-3 but Everton were the better side, (I think Zuma must have kicked a black cat under the team bus) we won because of some great goalkeeping from Cockney sensation Harry Ola, and a big fat kiss on the lips from Lady Luck.

What’s so hard to admit that you won yesterday because of a wrong decision by a referee who all week LFC fans have been saying is useless?

We didn’t win because of a wrong decision

We won because we took a chance and Forest missed a number of good chances

 

[clubchamp98]

It’s one thing being on the wrong end of a subjective decision. Eg if you don’t get given a penalty for a blatant foul, there is always the argument that it was a subjective call on the part of the referee or VAR.

This is completely different. This wasn’t a subjective call or a difference of opinion. The laws of the game are clear on this and the referee applied them incorrectly. He didn’t just make a bad call. He was wrong about the laws of the game, plain and simple. And that error directly led to a goal which cost Forest a point and gifted all three to Liverpool.

In any other walk of life, a fundamental mistake like this would be punished in one way or another. What punishment will Tierney get? Absolutely none, is what my money is going on.

Yes but he does it every week and nothing has been done yet.
He’s not the only one either.

 

[clubchamp98]

I'm not disputing that, but the commentator and pundit both agreed he had been consistent in his blowing for what he thought was a head injury. They both felt there were lots of times for both sides he was a little over zealous, shall we say, for blowing up for what he thought was a head injury.
Perhaps if there was a mandatory off the pitch check (as in Rugby Union) there would be less acting from everyone.

Always said “ just let the phisio come on if they get in the way then stop the game”

Really hurt gets attention right away.
Playacting ,wasting time their down to 10 men.

 

[clubchamp98]

If the ball is in the penalty area when the whistle is blown the ball is dropped back to the goalkeeper. If the ball is outside the area it should be dropped to the team that had the ball or returned to them by the opposition.

In this instance Forest had the ball out wide so the correct decision would have been either to drop the ball to a Forest player or to drop it to a Liverpool player for them to return it to Forest. What absolutely shouldn't have happened is a drop ball in the area to the keeper.

Like we have been saying all season Tierney is a bad referee.

 

[Fade and Die]

We didn’t win because of a wrong decision

We won because we took a chance and Forest missed a number of good chances

I refer the honourable forum member to my recent post https://forums.golfmonthly.com/threads/the-footie-thread.109437/post-2727034

Pointing him in the direction of my first sentence.

 

[clubchamp98]

See this is the problem people have with LFC fans, they see an incontrovertible fact then deny it!

Yesterday we beat Everton 1-3 but Everton were the better side, (I think Zuma must have kicked a black cat under the team bus) we won because of some great goalkeeping from Cockney sensation Harry Ola, and a big fat kiss on the lips from Lady Luck.

What’s so hard to admit that you won yesterday because of a wrong decision by a referee who all week LFC fans have been saying is useless?

He is useless.
But he was useless in our favour but he’s still a bad ref.

But when anyone tells him he shows his red and yellow cards as Forest manager found out yesterday.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I refer the honourable forum member to my recent post https://forums.golfmonthly.com/threads/the-footie-thread.109437/post-2727034

Pointing him in the direction of my first sentence.

Wasting your breath. The unbearables are out in force

Swimming yesterday saw a dad following the footy .. thought oh a hammer ...nope a thick London accent cockney red

Goal goes in.. let's wait for VAR it's always against us

They genuinely believe the world is against them..

I think the nation join us all this afternoon with our loyal support to Manchester city

 

[hairball_89]

I refer the honourable forum member to my recent post https://forums.golfmonthly.com/threads/the-footie-thread.109437/post-2727034

Pointing him in the direction of my first sentence.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing it was a terrible piece of refereeing. it is the standard of refereeing that you should expect from Tierney - he simply isn't good enough.

this can be correct at the same time as Liverpool winning because they took one chance, when Forest also had plenty of chances that they didn't take. If Forest had won because they took chances and we didn't, the way the game played out I don't believe any of the liverpool fans on here would have said we didn't deserve to lose - for the majority the game we weren't very good and arguably Forest had the better chances.

Would the Forest management team have been as annoyed about the situation had Nunez missed? Doubtful. Would they have been annoyed if Kelleher had smashed the ball up the pitch, Forest countered and scored? Absolutely not.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I refer the honourable forum member to my recent post https://forums.golfmonthly.com/threads/the-footie-thread.109437/post-2727034

Pointing him in the direction of my first sentence.

And I’ll refer to your last statement

“What’s so hard to admit that you won yesterday because of a wrong decision by a referee who all week LFC fans have been saying is useless”

We didn’t win because of a wrong decision

Tierney is poor , by the rules he got the head injury rule wrong - but that wasn’t the reason why we won the game

 

[backwoodsman]

And I’ll refer to your last statement

“What’s so hard to admit that you won yesterday because of a wrong decision by a referee who all week LFC fans have been saying is useless”

We didn’t win because of a wrong decision

Tierney is poor , by the rules he got the head injury rule wrong - but that wasn’t the reason why we won the game

But you did win because of a wrong decision. Yes, Liverpool took a good chance, and Forest squandered plenty, but your chance wouldn't have existed without the wrong decision being made.