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That doesn’t punish them for the period where they were breaking the rules

Any league titles during the period they won should be removed ( and no not given to second place )

Add onto multiple points reductions

And relegate them 👍

If the charges are proven it amounts to financial cheating - the punishment must be fitting
I'm glad you said that, otherwise Liverpool really would be the kings of having Premier league titles with an * beside their name :)
 
I'm glad you said that, otherwise Liverpool really would be the kings of having Premier league titles with an * beside their name :)
Do all league titles won when there were no spending rules in place also deserve an asterisk? Same outcome, just Wild West rules back then 🤷‍♀️ .

All very complicated, or not complicated at all o_O
 
Just catching up with the football from the weekend, Gary Neville reminding me how he is such an odious obnoxious berk. His comments calling Chelsea "billion pound bottlejobs" was appalling. I expect better from an ex professional footballer who has failed dramatically at football management.

The game was of such a quality from both sides, entertaining and i think extra time shown how much both teams had put into the game in 90minutes. Perhaps Liverpools fresh legs gave them an impetus in the extra time but as a complete neutral i enjoyed the game.
 
How does the above fit with Leicester breaking FFP rules to get out of the Championship back in 2013/14 I believe it was. Should you have been relegated back down? Hand back the PL title won when you shouldn't have been in the division? Leicester paid a fine only for that breach in rules, not even any points reduction. The rules either apply evenly or they don't apply at all.
Beat me to it. Pot and black spring to mind. :LOL:
 
Just catching up with the football from the weekend, Gary Neville reminding me how he is such an odious obnoxious berk. His comments calling Chelsea "billion pound bottlejobs" was appalling. I expect better from an ex professional footballer who has failed dramatically at football management.

The game was of such a quality from both sides, entertaining and i think extra time shown how much both teams had put into the game in 90minutes. Perhaps Liverpools fresh legs gave them an impetus in the extra time but as a complete neutral i enjoyed the game.
I think entirely fair in this instance.

An entertaining match where Chelsea had arguably had the better of it for 90 minutes.

Extra time they come out not to lose, and didn’t possess the quality to take it to penalties.
 
Just catching up with the football from the weekend, Gary Neville reminding me how he is such an odious obnoxious berk. His comments calling Chelsea "billion pound bottlejobs" was appalling. I expect better from an ex professional footballer who has failed dramatically at football management.

The game was of such a quality from both sides, entertaining and i think extra time shown how much both teams had put into the game in 90minutes. Perhaps Liverpools fresh legs gave them an impetus in the extra time but as a complete neutral i enjoyed the game.
I didn't see much wrong with that comment, and it seems plenty of people have agreed since, so I don't think it is outlandish opinion. And, football is about opinions. It is why we have pundits. They are not there to just tell us how a team has played from a technical point of view. They are there to criticise and praise in a highly public entertainment industry.

Sure, the match could have gone either way, but they looked to crumble under the pressure in extra time. They had the opportunities to use subs in the same way Liverpool did, so Liverpool having fresh legs doesn't seem much of an excuse. Unless Chelsea have more injuries in their squad and have been unable to bring many players in over the last few transfer windows?

There have been plenty worse things said about Man Utd and their manager. I especially love the fact that certain people will slam the players and the culture within the entire club, but then also slam the manager for not being able to compete for the league :) . But, they are just doing their job, and we can either agree or disagree
 
Chelsea were decent in the game but with better (more expensive) and more experienced players in extra time, they did bottle it. Whether that was down to the players or the manager who knows, probably a bit of both. Playing for penalties is always a bad idea unless you're big underdogs.
 
Just catching up with the football from the weekend, Gary Neville reminding me how he is such an odious obnoxious berk. His comments calling Chelsea "billion pound bottlejobs" was appalling. I expect better from an ex professional footballer who has failed dramatically at football management.

The game was of such a quality from both sides, entertaining and i think extra time shown how much both teams had put into the game in 90minutes. Perhaps Liverpools fresh legs gave them an impetus in the extra time but as a complete neutral i enjoyed the game.
I thought he had it spot on. Plenty of agreement elsewhere in the media. Not sure what a failed managerial career and opinions as a pundit have in common
 
Yes but when Agueroooooooooooooo scored Man U were winning the league.

Its affected a lot of other clubs.
The current list of top transfers in the PL have 4 for Man Utd, 3 for Chelsea, 2 for Man City, 1 for Arsenal. Neither Utd nor Chelsea seem too affected by FFP. Both spend as though the money pot is endless, which it may be of course. Fair doesn't come into it though, does it? If it was fair then other clubs could compete with them if they were capable. As it is, they are blocked by recent rules.
 
The current list of top transfers in the PL have 4 for Man Utd, 3 for Chelsea, 2 for Man City, 1 for Arsenal. Neither Utd nor Chelsea seem too affected by FFP. Both spend as though the money pot is endless, which it may be of course. Fair doesn't come into it though, does it? If it was fair then other clubs could compete with them if they were capable. As it is, they are blocked by recent rules.
Man Utd are absolutely screwed right now by FFP. It’s why they didn’t strengthen in January and have people like Amrabat in the squad.

Chelsea are hanging on because of the amortised contracts but the rest of the league has recently voted to limit their use in future.
 
Man Utd are absolutely screwed right now by FFP. It’s why they didn’t strengthen in January and have people like Amrabat in the squad.

Chelsea are hanging on because of the amortised contracts but the rest of the league has recently voted to limit their use in future.

Yeah but only because they never sell players for any kind of profit. Their business in sales is probably the worst in the entire premier league from a fees paid to fees brought back in standpoint.
 
The current list of top transfers in the PL have 4 for Man Utd, 3 for Chelsea, 2 for Man City, 1 for Arsenal. Neither Utd nor Chelsea seem too affected by FFP. Both spend as though the money pot is endless, which it may be of course. Fair doesn't come into it though, does it? If it was fair then other clubs could compete with them if they were capable. As it is, they are blocked by recent rules.

Chelsea are rumoured to need to make multiple sales before the financial year end ie Jun 30th to meet the rules

Will be plenty of clubs sniffing round for perceived bargains
 
Yeah but only because they never sell players for any kind of profit. Their business in sales is probably the worst in the entire premier league from a fees paid to fees brought back in standpoint.
Oh absolutely but the end result is the same. They can’t buy without selling and they have overpriced players on crazy high contracts.
 
I think entirely fair in this instance.

An entertaining match where Chelsea had arguably had the better of it for 90 minutes.

Extra time they come out not to lose, and didn’t possess the quality to take it to penalties.
Given the quality of the 90minutes it's impossible to keep that level up into an extra 30mins so its understable why they tried to play for penalties. A tactic that has backfired.

I respect your view.
 
I didn't see much wrong with that comment, and it seems plenty of people have agreed since, so I don't think it is outlandish opinion. And, football is about opinions. It is why we have pundits. They are not there to just tell us how a team has played from a technical point of view. They are there to criticise and praise in a highly public entertainment industry.

Sure, the match could have gone either way, but they looked to crumble under the pressure in extra time. They had the opportunities to use subs in the same way Liverpool did, so Liverpool having fresh legs doesn't seem much of an excuse. Unless Chelsea have more injuries in their squad and have been unable to bring many players in over the last few transfer windows?

There have been plenty worse things said about Man Utd and their manager. I especially love the fact that certain people will slam the players and the culture within the entire club, but then also slam the manager for not being able to compete for the league :) . But, they are just doing their job, and we can either agree or disagree
Chelsea never crumbled under pressure at all. They simply ran out of steam and tried to get to penalties. Its a tactic that has been used by many of teams in numerous finals but it just backfired.

Some of he criticism of Manchester United is warranted, the manager has been there 18months, spent an awful lot of money and was highly praised by Neville for there efforts last season.

The job as a Sky PL pundit/analyst is a highly respected position. They have a platform that reaches all 4 corners of the footballing world. By all means have an opinion, but keep it respectful. With the performamce Chelsea gave to call them Bottle jobs in my opinion is not fair.
 
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