RichA
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Yep. A foul is a foul, but unnecessary drama to get somebody sent off for a mistimed challenge stinks, even if your own player does it.
Aztecs27
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But I’d argue a mistimed challenge that warrants a yellow card is a mistimed challenge that warrants a yellow card, regardless of how much drama the player makes
Swango1980
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The psychology of many football fans is amusing at times.
A month ago, Billyboots dared mention the injury crisis (plus players unavailable for other reasons) Man Utd have had all season. This was dampened by one Liverpool fan, by saying all clubs have to deal with injuries, and highlighting the current injury list which was much shorter than it had been (and wrong as 2 injured players did not apear).
Presumably this is so that injuries can be blissfully ignored, and the quality of players and manager can be continually criticised for most of the problems.
Fast forward to now, and we are being told about Liverpools growing injury list, and how great Liverpool are for competing on 4 fronts. Interesting interpretation. Liverpool.have been relatively lucky with injuries for most of the season, hence how they started well and built up that momentum (Robertson and Thiago being the only key players injured for a long time). Had their injuries been reversed with Man U and Newcastle their performances may well have reversed as well. Just like last season when Liverpool players were tired (never Klopps fault, even though we know it has got too much for him, hence having to step down at end of season).
Sure, they are now getting hit with a lot of injuries now. But as other fans were told, just deal with it, other clubs have to.
A month ago, Billyboots dared mention the injury crisis (plus players unavailable for other reasons) Man Utd have had all season. This was dampened by one Liverpool fan, by saying all clubs have to deal with injuries, and highlighting the current injury list which was much shorter than it had been (and wrong as 2 injured players did not apear).
Presumably this is so that injuries can be blissfully ignored, and the quality of players and manager can be continually criticised for most of the problems.
Fast forward to now, and we are being told about Liverpools growing injury list, and how great Liverpool are for competing on 4 fronts. Interesting interpretation. Liverpool.have been relatively lucky with injuries for most of the season, hence how they started well and built up that momentum (Robertson and Thiago being the only key players injured for a long time). Had their injuries been reversed with Man U and Newcastle their performances may well have reversed as well. Just like last season when Liverpool players were tired (never Klopps fault, even though we know it has got too much for him, hence having to step down at end of season).
Sure, they are now getting hit with a lot of injuries now. But as other fans were told, just deal with it, other clubs have to.
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ColchesterFC
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we are dealing with it
that was the whole point Let’s just clarify the initial point
It wasn’t a comparison, it wasn’t a competition, it wasn’t a moan
No one was saying the club was any different - it wasn’t a cry for help
It was just a statement of fact that the club has a number of injuries right now and have a lot of games coming up where it’s going to be tough to keep going on all front’s
Yes other clubs have injuries , some have had a lot and some have had very little - it’s swings and roundabouts - we have had issues in the past and we didn’t cope , this year we are right now
ColchesterFC
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You beat me to it. That'll teach me to read to the end of the thread before posting.Fixed it for you
Excellent timing on this tweet too
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CountLippe
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To your original point I think its remarkable. Outside of the most optimistic Liverpool fans, I doubt anyone thought Liverpool would be top of the table and still in all the cups in late february, injuries or no injuries.we are dealing with it
Let’s just clarify the initial point
It wasn’t a comparison, it wasn’t a competition, it wasn’t a moan
No one was saying the club was any different - it wasn’t a cry for help
It was just a statement of fact that the club has a number of injuries right now and have a lot of games coming up where it’s going to be tough to keep going on all front’s
Yes other clubs have injuries , some have had a lot and some have had very little - it’s swings and roundabouts - we have had issues in the past and we didn’t cope , this year we are right now
Swango1980
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Yet you seem to be quite sensitive when others play down your injuries, saying all clubs need to deal with it, judging by your responses. Yet it is only the same reaction you gave to other clubs when they suffered themselves.we are dealing with it
Let’s just clarify the initial point
It wasn’t a comparison, it wasn’t a competition, it wasn’t a moan
No one was saying the club was any different - it wasn’t a cry for help
It was just a statement of fact that the club has a number of injuries right now and have a lot of games coming up where it’s going to be tough to keep going on all front’s
Yes other clubs have injuries , some have had a lot and some have had very little - it’s swings and roundabouts - we have had issues in the past and we didn’t cope , this year we are right now
At any rate, it doesn't surprise me too much that Liverpool get injuries. I'd see City as a much better team / squad technically than Liverpool. But Liverpool's strength seems to be playing high octane / tempo football, which would seem to make players more prone to certain injuries. It is a bit like F1, where Red Bull (best car) puts on hard tyres, and into the race Ferrari are just in front, with soft tyres. It would seem silly if Ferrari started complaining about bad luck when their soft tyres wear out first.
To me, Man City start the season on hard tyres. Around Xmas they might upgrade to mediums and then in the run in they stick on brand new soft tyres. Whereas Liverpool only seem to own soft tyres, and so they just batter them as much as they can and hope they hold up.
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I don’t think many Liverpool fans expected it as well, think the aim after such a big turnaround in the middle was to challenge for top 4 again and get back into CL whilst looking to rebuild again
To be where we are after last season is brilliant and it’s great to see , I still think City will win the title but if we can get a couple of the cups and second that would give a great base to continue building next season under Alonso
CountLippe
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I just think that footballers are so highly tuned, muscle injuries are becoming more common. Style of play may mitigate to some extent, but its still luck in the main part.
Swango1980
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Is it that remarkable? Assuming Liverpool were able to up their game from last season, then they were one of a small group of clubs you could realistically say could top the table in February. That may be their most difficult feat, with Man City and Arsenal the two other main contenders at this time, and maybe one or 2 others having an outside chance. I'm not sure it is a big surprise Liverpool have done well in the EFL Cup either, they have a big squad to play good enough sides in those games. They've only played 2 rounds in the FA Cup, so I wouldn't be surprised they are still in that, albeit it has taken a good result against Arsenal. And I 99% expected them to still be in Europe at this stage, with teams like Union Saint-Gilloise, LASK and Toulouse in their group.
There is certainly little to be critical of with Liverpool's results up to now, that is for sure. But I don't think it is beyond the imagination of most to think Liverpool could still be in all the Cups by late February? Any Premier League side that makes the final of the EFL Cup probably has a good chance of being in all the cups they started the season in by this stage.
Swango1980
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Maybe LiVARpool are getting injuries because of VAR? After all, with VAR taking time to see ways of giving decisions that benefit Liverpool, the downside is that the Liverpool players are playing in a lot of games with long stoppages. Getting cold muscles, and hence getting injured
Swango1980
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If he doesn't go to Bayern (which he may if Solskjaer says noI don’t think many Liverpool fans expected it as well, think the aim after such a big turnaround in the middle was to challenge for top 4 again and get back into CL whilst looking to rebuild again
To be where we are after last season is brilliant and it’s great to see , I still think City will win the title but if we can get a couple of the cups and second that would give a great base to continue building next season under Alonso
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Pin-seeker
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Tuchel to leave Bayern at the end of the season.
No surprise really.
No surprise really.
I'd like to applaud the comparison of F1 tyres to Man City & Liverpool by @Swango1980 
. A little bit off the wall but it works 
. A little bit off the wall but it works
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A lot of truth in that
I don’t know if there are more games being played but does seem to have more international games which doesn’t help anyone
Saw Owen talking to Simon Jordon on a podcast and he said something surprisingly decent
Players now are more like athletes first , stamina , strength , pace etc - it’s more about how much they can run these days as opposed to how skillful a player is , and with some teams focused on high press and intensity it may well take more of a toll on players.
Of the injuries we have had - Dom , TAa and Allison have been muscle injuries - the rest have been contact
Don Barzini
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I used to agree with this, but not any more. I have accepted it's the way football is now. Certain players will get applauded for it by pundits and fans, so bring it on baby. If any players on my own team perform any act of gamesmanship in order to gain the advantage, I'm all for it now. If you can't beat them, join them.
Morgan Gibbs-White had the right to go down. He was being clever.
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Injuries happen to all players and sometimes unfortunately for the club they play for it coincides with other team mates being side lines with injuries as well ,some teams are hit worse than others , Liverpool have had a few but so have other teams , Brighton had a really dmbad run of having players out and what with the afcon and Asian international matches were without a lot of first teamers. Fortunately now though we have got the likes of Mitoma and Adringa back along with Fati so our pinjury injury list isn't looking as bad but with Solly March out for the season and Moder only just back in training after nearly two seasons out things aren't so bad at the moment, but we had nine out at one time and that hurts any team . But as we are little club the hullabaloo wasn't all over the back pages .
Personally I don't care if Liverpool or city or spurs or arsenal or even utd have injury problems it happens ,god knows how many pages have been written on this site talking about my poor Team has lots of players out .nobody but a fellow supporter of your team gives a flying one .
I thought this was a football thread not emergency ward 10 or Holby city
Personally I don't care if Liverpool or city or spurs or arsenal or even utd have injury problems it happens ,god knows how many pages have been written on this site talking about my poor Team has lots of players out .nobody but a fellow supporter of your team gives a flying one .
I thought this was a football thread not emergency ward 10 or Holby city
