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Because there was contact. Not a foul but contact all the same.


But he went to ground so if the was a touch and he had gone to ground then it’s a penalty or the touch isn’t enough for him to go to ground so it’s simulation
 
But he went to ground so if the was a touch and he had gone to ground then it’s a penalty or the touch isn’t enough for him to go to ground so it’s simulation
There was definite contact, so he had a right to go down.
VAR eventually concluded that he was not wearing a Man Utd shirt, so the decision was rightly overturned.
 
But he went to ground so if the was a touch and he had gone to ground then it’s a penalty or the touch isn’t enough for him to go to ground so it’s simulation
There was contact. The explanation given (albeit by commentary team inc former ref) was that the contact was Havertz trailing leg catching AWB not the other way round.

So there is contact that brought Havertz down but after review it wasn't contact causing a foul. So yes contact, no penalty.
 
Yep. Leg came across and initially no contact but Havertz trailing leg caught the defenders leg and unbalanced him.

It was one of those "seen them given" moments.
 
Yep. Leg came across and initially no contact but Havertz trailing leg caught the defenders leg and unbalanced him.

It was one of those "seen them given" moments.
It was contentious enough that "commentary ref" said he's give it on field. Said several times it's a pen and then after it was sent for review said "and that's why its NOT a pen"... He couldn't even be consistent in a 3 minute spell. What hope is there for consistency across a while game, let alone a season.
 
Yep. Leg came across and initially no contact but Havertz trailing leg caught the defenders leg and unbalanced him.

It was one of those "seen them given" moments.

So that seems like it should be a penalty - only seen the replay once and it looked like no contact but even if it’s a trailing leg and it’s unbalanced him then that seems like it was the correct call but obviously seems a close call

So the next question with it being such a close and subjective call why did the ref go to the monitor when it’s not a “clear and obvious” error 🤔
 
So that seems like it should be a penalty - only seen the replay once and it looked like no contact but even if it’s a trailing leg and it’s unbalanced him then that seems like it was the correct call but obviously seems a close call

So the next question with it being such a close and subjective call why did the ref go to the monitor when it’s not a “clear and obvious” error 🤔

Can't disagree. Not clear and obvious at all. I didn't think Havertz moved his trail leg to initiate contact, therefore a foul as the defender's leg shouldn't have been there. Husband felt the opposite - and neither of us are Arsenal fans.

That's one of the failings of how VAR is being utilised. It was nowhere near a clear and obvious error.
 
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