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The Footie Thread

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Swango1980 said:
At no point did I say the police were not going to be busier at specific times, in specific areas. I disagreed that ALL football should be postponed at the weekend. And, at no point did the FA, police or government say that was the reason they were called off.

I see the Chelsea match is still going ahead. And many other matches are being played. You were saying about the police.....?
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Money, champ league over second league comp no doubt coming into play

Uefa apparently happy with the security for chelsea game ..

You may disagree but the facts have been well published now.

Police from all over the country have been drafted into London ..

So busier than normal
 
pauljames87 said:
Money, champ league over second league comp no doubt coming into play

Uefa apparently happy with the security for chelsea game ..

You may disagree but the facts have been well published now.

Police from all over the country have been drafted into London ..

So busier than normal
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Is there not a full set of Championship and football league fixtures this week? How can they ge played now, but not the weekend just passed?

Still not sure if PL will be played this weekend, but as far as I am aware it is still scheduled. If policing was such a major issue this weekend just passed, should football chiefs not just cancel all football next weekend now?

I could understand matches being cancelled last Friday, just to give people a day to watch and process the news. Could also definitely understand cancelled games on day of funeral (although as it happens, there are no matches then).

But, for all the days in between, I still don't get it. It would only make sense if specific games were called off due to specific security issues for that game.

How many police are required as security at kids football games?
 
Swango1980 said:
Is there not a full set of Championship and football league fixtures this week? How can they ge played now, but not the weekend just passed?

Still not sure if PL will be played this weekend, but as far as I am aware it is still scheduled. If policing was such a major issue this weekend just passed, should football chiefs not just cancel all football next weekend now?

I could understand matches being cancelled last Friday, just to give people a day to watch and process the news. Could also definitely understand cancelled games on day of funeral (although as it happens, there are no matches then).

But, for all the days in between, I still don't get it. It would only make sense if specific games were called off due to specific security issues for that game.

How many police are required as security at kids football games?
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Kids football was silly I agree. However once the fa took that stance they run the lot and have to appear consistent.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Not yet, I don't think. I saw they were going to leave it up to clubs in negotiation with local police. I'd expect London based games to be off, all others on.

On funnier matters, Juventus game yesterday. 2-2, last minute goal to Juventus. Goal scorer takes his shirt of, why, just why, run around gets booked. It's his second yellow so it's a red. The goal gets rules out by VAR :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. Two more players get sent off in the melee. Game ends 2-2.
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Have you seen the VAR decision where the VAR Official missed a player on the pitch and ruled a goal offside. The player was near the corner flag and they never saw him. ??
 
Stuart_C said:
In fairness to the idiot using it, apparently he only had 1 picture available to him and it was from the opposite side that looked clearly offside ??
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Get Italian Football News @_GIFN
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The Italian Referees Association has stated that these images were not available to the VAR, who never saw that Antonio Candreva was playing everyone onside when Arek Milik scored.
 
fundy said:
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The Italian Referees Association has stated that these images were not available to the VAR, who never saw that Antonio Candreva was playing everyone onside when Arek Milik scored.
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Still not seen it, just the image on this forum. However, if that is true, it is scandalous. Surely VAR, when used for offside, uses cameras that scan the full width of the pitch!????? How on earth can they be used if they don't?
 
Tashyboy said:
Have you seen the VAR decision where the VAR Official missed a player on the pitch and ruled a goal offside. The player was near the corner flag and they never saw him. ??
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Yes, it was in the Juventus match I mentioned. It wasn't highlighted on the sports news channels, when I posted, they missed that. What a finish to the game :oops:
 
fundy said:
Have to love the inconsistency, the met are ok with policing Chelsea at home in the CL and Millwall v QPR on the Wednesday night but cant cover Arsenal v PSV Thursday
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If the aid demands on Wednesday can be met, but from Thursday onwards they cannot then it’s nothing to do with inconsistency, simply a case of not having enough available manpower to fulfill all the demands.
 
Had a rattle with daughter Tash earlier on. She is a Bobby. The Met police are requesting help for Monday. They are short of staff, very short.
 
Tashyboy said:
Had a rattle with daughter Tash earlier on. She is a Bobby. The Met police are requesting help for Monday. They are short of staff, very short.
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Prob why man u Vs Leeds is off.. almost like something is going on in the outside world
 
pauljames87 said:
Prob why man u Vs Leeds is off.. almost like something is going on in the outside world
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All the more evidence that is was a rash decision to call games off last weekend.

Absolutely no issue with individual games being called off due to security issues, like the 2 games this weekend. It simply becomes a necessity.

But, now you have 4 teams in PL who will need to squeeze in 2 fixtures later in season (3 of those teams who also compete in Europe, are often expected to do OK in cups and have a lot of international players who will probably go to World Cup). Along with the 16 teams who have the one game to squeeze in.
 
Swango1980 said:
All the more evidence that is was a rash decision to call games off last weekend.

Absolutely no issue with individual games being called off due to security issues, like the 2 games this weekend. It simply becomes a necessity.

But, now you have 4 teams in PL who will need to squeeze in 2 fixtures later in season (3 of those teams who also compete in Europe, are often expected to do OK in cups and have a lot of international players who will probably go to World Cup). Along with the 16 teams who have the one game to squeeze in.
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It almost like there are more important things in life than football?
 
pauljames87 said:
It almost like there are more important things in life than football?
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Again, I'm not really sure what you are getting at. At what point have I suggested events should be cancelled FOR the sake of football? I haven't. I have also said specific games must be called off if there are security issues.

I have more right to throw that statement at you. The passing of the Monarch is a huge event. However, it is almost like nothing else in life exists to some people. Had the games been played last weekend, all these more important events in life would still have proceeded.

PS. I should revise my previous post. 5 PL teams need to squeeze in 2 extra fixtures. I forgot about Arsenal's CL being postponed.
 
Swango1980 said:
All the more evidence that is was a rash decision to call games off last weekend.

Absolutely no issue with individual games being called off due to security issues, like the 2 games this weekend. It simply becomes a necessity.

But, now you have 4 teams in PL who will need to squeeze in 2 fixtures later in season (3 of those teams who also compete in Europe, are often expected to do OK in cups and have a lot of international players who will probably go to World Cup). Along with the 16 teams who have the one game to squeeze in.
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At the end of the 20/21 season Rotherham United played 12 games between 2 Apr and 8 May , some gaps were only 2 days. Would any of the premier teams be forced to play anything like this?
 
Swango1980 said:
Again, I'm not really sure what you are getting at. At what point have I suggested events should be cancelled FOR the sake of football? I haven't. I have also said specific games must be called off if there are security issues.

I have more right to throw that statement at you. The passing of the Monarch is a huge event. However, it is almost like nothing else in life exists to some people. Had the games been played last weekend, all these more important events in life would still have proceeded.

PS. I should revise my previous post. 5 PL teams need to squeeze in 2 extra fixtures. I forgot about Arsenal's CL being postponed.
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These things can and will be worked out at some point..it may but tight but these things happen.

The police are stretched it's a simple fact. As others on here have said officers from all over the country have been drafted in to London and I'm sure Scotland needed some assistance whilst they paid their respects.

The sheer number of games in London last weekend was unmanageable

From Wednesday people have been advised travel in London will be rammed until the funeral

There is no doubt at all that this weekend having football crowds would have only added to the problems of the police right now
 
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