No, the football's been awful.
And the crowd is predominantly children. ?
And the crowd is predominantly children. ?
clubchamp98
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Not sure about that Kane wants to be a holding midfielder not a CF.
We were awful.
They were the better team second half.
At least the ref got in the headlines with that “ pen”[/QUOTE]
We were awful.
They were the better team second half.
At least the ref got in the headlines with that “ pen”[/QUOTE]
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Deleted member 21784
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I was very disappointed.. the team looks good on paper but was all over shop
Bellingham was off.. rice was off
Bowen looked lively but everyone else looked on the beach until we brought on grealish and stones
What's grealish got to do to start?
That pen was a joke. He had already won the ball why even bother with leaning into him
clubchamp98
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Yes agree on paper.
But what is GS saying to them.
Pity for Bowen to start in an underperforming team but he had a couple of chances ,thought he did well.
What the ref is doing there. Where is your body mass supposed to go when you hook a ball away like that.
He looked like it was all about him.
Swango1980
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When the ref blew the whistle, I just assumed he was giving offside or a free kick to England for something. Took a while to realise he was pointing to the spot. Couldn't believe it. Good job there is VAR...
It was probably a game that is at the wrong time of the season for England. Most players have probably already mentally (and physically) turned off after their club season. Don't blame them either. Bigger game for Hungary, so easier for their players to be more invested in the game.
Think Southgate could have made tactical changes much earlier than he did.
clubchamp98
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That’s the problem for me.
What we were doing wasn’t really working but like for like substitutes didn’t change anything.
If Grealish can’t get in that team he might as well stay at home.
clubchamp98
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Wales v Ukraine been a good game.
Embarrassing for VAR how that’s not a pen for Ukraine.
Embarrassing for VAR how that’s not a pen for Ukraine.
It's been a cracker. Loads of chances, Ukraine have missed stacks, credit to Hennessy.
clubchamp98
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Well done to wales !
Better game than that dross yesterday.
Nice bit of class from Bale and wales players going to the Ukraine fans.
Think Ukraine just lack a proper finisher.
Some tasty challenges, World Cup place up for grabs.
Where England looked like they didn’t want to be there yesterday.
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Bale's Boyos at the World Cup. Well I never!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Wales didn't get the memo then....
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
To be fair, what really was the point of the England game? I can't blame the players for being disinterested.
Wales, Ukraine, they had everything to play for and gave everything they had. You couldn't ask for more. Fair play to the ref for giving allowances for some of the challenges, it was a proper match.
Agree about Ukraine missing a striker. They had so many chances, quite a few players will be having sleepless nights tonight.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr
Must apply to the players on both sides this time
Great game
Must apply to the players on both sides this time
Great game
4LEX
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Well done Wales, defended so well and had that luck they needed!
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Very good and underappreciated point
Rice I'll use as example as he is (currently) ours so I follow him more
35 games season before last
Full world cup
50 games this season
He is knackered
Compare that to bale
34 games all comps season before last
Less games in world Cup
11 games this season
Bigger game, meant so much
Can see why they were up for it
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
lol, comparing a one off game to qualify for the world cup for the first time in 64 years with as KDB so correctly put it "a glorified friendly"
plenty of english clubs managers need to look at themselves as to why some of their players are so knackered, yours and ours are definitely included in that, but not sure Bale the best of comparators unless you include the amount of holes hes played too
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lol, comparing a one off game to qualify for the world cup for the first time in 64 years with as KDB so correctly put it "a glorified friendly"
plenty of english clubs managers need to look at themselves as to why some of their players are so knackered, yours and ours are definitely included in that, but not sure Bale the best of comparators unless you include the amount of holes hes played too
Very true I forgot to add his golf rounds
Maybe he should have gone for the Liv tour? Would be crackin
Yes we need more depth..it's disgusting
GB72
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You do have to question the point of some games, especially when there is so much made about player welfare. End if a very long season, world cup year and straight into a meaningless match (dress it up as the nation's league all you like but still meaningless). Same with rugby, long season every week stories about player welfare and yet all the international teams are off on southern hemisphere tours as soon as the season ends. Are they really necessary
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
the problem is, even with more depth, Moyes would still have kept playing Rice, the same as Arteta would with Saka
how many games for eg did Rice play in cup games, Europa league games when you were through and the league when he shouldve been focussing on europe?
