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Why wasn’t the villa goal chalked off for offside when Watkins had a shot?


I'm going to assume the "phase of play" argument.

The way offside is managed these days is a farce. Player clearly offside affects the game and it leads to a corner/free kick/goal but because another phase of play happens the offside never gets given. It's the one rule that really gets up my nose.
 
Why wasn’t the villa goal chalked off for offside when Watkins had a shot?

Assistant referees told not to flag if it's close and to let play continue. If it had directly led to a goal it would've been ruled out for Watkins being offside. As play continued and then the goal was scored in the second or third phase of play they don't go back to the original decision. I'm not defending the rules as it's a complete shambles but that's what we're currently forced to live with.
 
Well... made hard work of that. Villa were brilliant.

But my god it's a good job Jon Moss is retiring. He was awful. Not sure he was up with play at all.
 
Villa look a much better side when Nakamba plays in the middle to me, not sure Gerrard knows his best formation or side currently though. Be interesting to see where they are at the start of next season
 
Not sure I can understand how clubs are valuing players nowadays. Haaland is meant to be the best player ever, Talksport host yesterday reckons he can score 40+ goals next season :eek: but costs £51 million. That makes him only half as good as Grealish who has become a squad player and worse than Maguire!!!
Or does this mean clubs are paying some sort of premium for English players?
 
Not sure I can understand how clubs are valuing players nowadays. Haaland is meant to be the best player ever, Talksport host yesterday reckons he can score 40+ goals next season :eek: but costs £51 million. That makes him only half as good as Grealish who has become a squad player and worse than Maguire!!!
Or does this mean clubs are paying some sort of premium for English players?

Contracts. He had a release Clause and they met it

If he didn't have it he would be worth triple that

"When he left Red Bull Salzburg in January 2019, whoever was going to sign him had to agree to have this release clause in his contract - €60m in the summer of 2022. He was available then for €20m, which is about £18m. Manchester United were very keen to sign him, but wouldn't agree to have this release clause in his contract. Whereas it made sense for Dortmund to sign him for €20m, he scores loads of goals for them, and he leaves two-and-a-half years later for €60m. So they make a €40m profit.

But for a club the size of Manchester United you can't have one of their star players having a release clause that is only €60m, one of their rivals could come up and sign him. That's the reason he is going for a relatively cheap fee, this release clause. He was effectively using Dortmund as a stepping stone and I don't think a club like Man Utd would have accepted being used as a stepping stone. You have to say Haaland's agents are being clever"
 
and mane, keita, jota and thiago :)
Just shows how poor the refereeing is now.
If you let players kick lumps out of each other they will carry on doing it until the card starts appearing.
Moss was shocking last night.
He played some advantage’s when there wasn’t one but didn’t bring it back for the foul for both teams.
The fans were right “ you don’t know what your doing “ was apt.
 
Assistant referees told not to flag if it's close and to let play continue. If it had directly led to a goal it would've been ruled out for Watkins being offside. As play continued and then the goal was scored in the second or third phase of play they don't go back to the original decision. I'm not defending the rules as it's a complete shambles but that's what we're currently forced to live with.
I thought once he shoots and the keeper saves it that’s the end of that phase of play .
That’s when the flag should go up.
If not you basically can only be offside if you score.

Later in the game long ball into the defence CB clears the ball into ops half but the flag goes up and they bring play back for offside.
It’s a joke.
 
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