Tashyboy
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Made me smile watching MOTD2, 2 good 2 bad. Allison copying Pickford going down with the ball was pure quality.
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Swango1980
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When there is a questionable decision, the ref will usually hold up play to give the VAR a chance to have a look before play continues. The VAR may say everything is fine, and then the ref lets play continue. Or, the VAR may say the ref should go and have a look. Surely you have seen that. When the ref holds one hand in the air for the players to hold play, and another to his ear to indicate he is talking to VAR. That is exactly how it has worked.
Bazz
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Dunno, but wish i was as fat as him.
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Yeah but it wasnt a questionable decision by the arbiter of the football laws. He was confident it was a goal kick. Dont forget these decisions are subjective according to the PGMOL and their mouth piece's in the media.
Atwell was shocking yesterday for both sides.
Jimaroid
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Atwell let too much go and should have acted sooner, even though I found it amusing I couldn't/wouldn't complain if Pickford had been shown a card in the first half.
I do wonder if this gives other teams ideas to frustrate Liverpool now. To be clear, I wouldn't like to see it happen, but I'm sure there's going to be a few managers rubbing their chins and mulling it over.
Swango1980
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And this is the most likely reason why it wasn't reviewed, hence my shock. The ability of the on field referee. Regardless of any referees own subjective view, they should not let that make their mind up that there is no need for VAR. The referees will always need to make subjective decisions and will make their decision based on whichever way they sway. Obviously, the whole point of VAR is to be able to look at the incident in detail, and be able to step in if they need to. The ref needs to be strong enough to pause things just in case, God forbid, they might have got it wrong initially.
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It happens more often than you think to the top sides, yesterday was the worst i've seen closely followed by Wolves away earlier on in the season. We actually scored the winner in the injury time they wasted.
I've no problem with it in the main, but it needs to be managed fairly by the refs.
Yesterday there was 2 mins added on 1st half. I reckon there should've been minimum 8 mins.
Orikoru
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Conte's system doesn't allow for an Eriksen though. That's why he has Bentancur, who's meant to provide that sort of creativity but from a deeper position.
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Might aswell get rid of the refs and referee the game from stockley park
Orikoru
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I like Lampard, but he had no experience of a relegation battle as a player even, let alone as a manager, it was a crazy appointment. He seems to have come in and thought they could play their way out of trouble - if a team is in trouble it's usually because they can't defend. The managers known for keeping teams up are the pragmatic ones who come in and get them defending better first and foremost. He's not done that at all, arguably their defending got worse.
Jimaroid
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Nah, if VAR had the remit to step-in that game would have been 90 minutes of review and 5 minutes of football. If Atwell had slowed that game down any more we'd be going backwards in time.
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There is no question lampard is one of the best midfielders to grace the premier League
Gerrard imo was always better and his England career stunted trying to play em both
Derby was a good fit for him. He did some shrewd loans using his chelsea connections in mount and tormi , plus got Wilson from Liverpool..
His mistake was answering chesleas call when he would always be a fall guy because they couldn't buy anyone so needed to keep the fans happy
Should have stayed at derby built up his career
greenone
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Disgruntled West ham fans when he left.
Orikoru
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Agree, Derby was a good blank slate for him to see what he could do, and he got them playing well - with a bit of help from some shrewd loan deals. The Chelsea gig came way too quickly, he'd have wanted that later in his career but I guess like he felt he couldn't say no in case he never got asked again. I thought he did well the first year under the transfer ban, established the likes of Mount and Abraham - but the expectations were too high when they were flashing the cash again and it was too much too soon. I'm not sure where his next move will be, whether a midtable team takes a pop with him, or more likely he'll have to head back to the Championship again.
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Tbh if Everton go down why not keep him and let him have a go.
Orikoru
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I think he'd probably walk if he took them down. Or, he should do. Then they should pick up Dyche before someone else does.
Bdill93
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I think thats the right move. He's got experience and should he get them back up and then maintain premier league status, he will earn a move somewhere else again afterwards.
Swango1980
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It often feels like that, thankfully it is only restricted to penalty box incidents, potential red card offences and offsides at the moment. Had any Liverpool player gone down under a similar tangle with Michael Keane, and the ref didn't give it, I'm sure there'd have been cries for the ref to at least wait to see if VAR had a different view. And, given the pressure he'd be under by the home fans, I think he'd be far more willing to tell Jordan Pickford to hang on for a second before putting the ball back into play.
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Not even when he left , it was when he was there
Fans like a bit of alliteration. I don't think you need to look too much deeper than that.
