The Footie Thread

[Swango1980]

? Ave said before.There’s a difference between a hurt player and an injured player. Unfortunately some go down like they are gonna spend the rest of there lives paralysed only to be cured after 3 mins with the magic sponge ?

I completely agree. But asking someone to judge whether a player is faking it or not is impossible. There may be the odd blindingly obvious ones, but others much harder to tell. Also, some people are naturally drama queens when it comes to actual pain. I'm sure fans will generally cry out for punishment when they suspect such play acting, until it is one of their own team and then suddenly they'll be crying out their player was genuinely hurt

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I completely agree. But asking someone to judge whether a player is faking it or not is impossible. There may be the odd blindingly obvious ones, but others much harder to tell. Also, some people are naturally drama queens when it comes to actual pain. I'm sure fans will generally cry out for punishment when they suspect such play acting, until it is one of their own team and then suddenly they'll be crying out their player was genuinely hurt

Saw some classic Big Match games from the 70's recently and players were crunching in and play was hardly stopped. Certainly didn't go down and feign injury. These days, anything like a robust challenge (not leaving the floor or catching with the trailing leg) sees a player down and rolling over and over and so play gets stopped. There are serial actors and those that still only go down when hurt. The problem is telling one from the other and referees will always take the decision to stop play.

 

[Foxholer]

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Not a fan of this one bit to be honest. I can just see clubs wasting the last 10 minutes making unneccessary subs if they're up in the game

How will that waste time? The clock is effectively OFF for the substitution. It likely actually IS off, but the Rule is written as 'Allowance is made by the referee in each half for all playing time lost...'

 

[Deleted member 21784]

How will that waste time? The clock is effectively OFF for the substitution. It likely actually IS off, but the Rule is written as 'Allowance is made by the referee in each half for all playing time lost...'

Considering you are one for corrections you should know it's the laws of the game .

30 seconds was the guidelines for goals or subs

So 4 subs 2 goals 3 mins

8 subs 2 goals adding a whole 2 extra mins doesn't seem cricket

 

[ColchesterFC]

Incredible stat showing the difference between the haves and the have nots in football....

 

[Foxholer]

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30 seconds was the guidelines for goals or subs

So 4 subs 2 goals 3 mins

8 subs 2 goals adding a whole 2 extra mins doesn't seem cricket

Well the Law (7) states '... all playing time lost...', so however long it takes - and 30 secs does seem about right for a 'normal' substitution. Where did you get those 'guidelines' from?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Incredible stat showing the difference between the haves and the have nots in football....

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FIFA should bring something in so that the players pay agents fees, not the clubs - if they dont like it use Linked in, Adecco, like the rest of us.

Hello Christiano, I've got your CV in front of me and I think a client of ours may have something that may interest you. Are you okay to talk now or shall I call back after 5pm, if you can't talk........

 

[ColchesterFC]

FIFA should bring something in so that the players pay agents fees, not the clubs - if they dont like it use Linked in, Adecco, like the rest of us.

Hello Christiano, I've got your CV in front of me and I think a client of ours may have something that may interest you. Are you okay to talk now or shall I call back after 5pm, if you can't talk........

I like this idea. It would be interesting to see how many of them kept an agent on full time and how many of them simply brought someone in, maybe a lawyer with experience in contract negotiations etc.

 

[Foxholer]

Incredible stat showing the difference between the haves and the have nots in football....

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I'd suggest that's actually a relative drop in the ocean when compared to the total turnover of the Premier League and associated entities (such as players wages/bonuses). Man U, for example paid out slightly more than that as 'Wages and Salaries' with a turnover of nearly twice that amount! Its Adidas sponsorship is nominally 75M/Year. Premier League is big business!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Manage it like rugby and stop the clock when the ball goes out of play or when there is any break in play (VAR check, injury etc)

Remember pre VAR when all and sundry was using Rugby as the example? "It works well in Rugby" was the argument. Look how well thats worked out ??‍

Lets run football on the same basis as we have for over 100yrs and tweak it accordingly. What we've done is change the laws of the game to suit the technology.

 

[Foxholer]

FIFA should bring something in so that the players pay agents fees, not the clubs - if they dont like it use Linked in, Adecco, like the rest of us.

Hello Christiano, I've got your CV in front of me and I think a client of ours may have something that may interest you. Are you okay to talk now or shall I call back after 5pm, if you can't talk........

That wouldn't work! The fees would simply be added to the 'Cost of the Player'.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Feigning injuries, get VAR to deal with them; failing to promptly restart the game, yellow card. It can be done if the authorities have the stomach for it.

They rarely get blatant wrong decisions right, are you really expecting theyd manage to sort cheating out?

 

[Foxholer]

They rarely get blatant wrong decisions right, are you really expecting theyd manage to sort cheating out?

It would only take 1 or 2 cases before the message got through! If not directly to the players, but certainly to Managers who suddenly find the same cheaters getting found out and banned either immediately, or as a result of acquiring too many in specified periods.

 

[Liverbirdie]

That wouldn't work! The fees would simply be added to the 'Cost of the Player'.

Maybe, maybe not.

Now agents get fees from both parties, if the club decides to pay a bit more its optional instead of what looks mandatory now.

Are you saying that the current situation is ideal?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Well the Law (7) states '... all playing time lost...', so however long it takes - and 30 secs does seem about right for a 'normal' substitution. Where did you get those 'guidelines' from?

When I did my referees course

 

[Deleted member 1740]

When I did my referees course

Was Homer on the same course?

 

[Fade and Die]

Absolutely will!

Not a fan of this one bit to be honest. I can just see clubs wasting the last 10 minutes making unneccessary subs if they're up in the game

Not being funny but Villa are one of the worst teams for breaking up play and slowing the game down. I honestly do not know how you can watch it?
West Ham V Villa a few weeks ago I could not believe how many times Villa players went down feigning injury, especially at corners one player was always left on the floor clutching his head or rolling around like a crocodile in a death roll! Pathetic stuff which fooled the ref most of the times, on the odd occasion he waved play on the Villain was up like a spring lamb!
Took West Ham scoring to make you pack it up.

 

[Foxholer]

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Now agents get fees from both parties, if the club decides to pay a bit more its optional instead of what looks mandatory now.

Are you saying that the current situation is ideal?

I wouldn't say it's ideal...just 'the way it is'!
In the 'free market', it seems to be simply 'the way it is'!

 

[Foxholer]

When I did my referees course

And have you found them to be appropriate?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Was Homer on the same course?

Behave you lol