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The Footie Thread

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Fade and Die said:
Things I have learned today:

If the ball hits upper arm when defending in the box - penalty

If the ball hits upper arm when attacking in the box and goes in - goal ?
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Ave said this before, how can a football law be different whether you are a defender or attacker.?
 
pauljames87 said:
how often do you see long sleeve now? look at the Leicester side. Long sleeve undershirts and short sleeve shirts. clearly that to make sure that the handball cant be incorrectly given against them.
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I know you don't believe this, the funny thing is is that some people probably do. :eek: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Slime said:
The photo is misleading as it's just a moment in time. One still that I saw on Sky Sports showed the ball hit mostly below his shirt sleeve.
Regarding the graphic, the ball quite clearly hit Dawson on the red portion of the arm.
Handball, I believe it really is as simple as that.
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In your opinion. which your entitled to.

However in the opinion of the ref and VAR its not.
 
pauljames87 said:
In your opinion. which your entitled to.

However in the opinion of the ref and VAR its not.
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But isnt that the whole point why VAR was brought in. Opinions and decisions by refs were wrong. VAR was brought into help but at times it has rather than helped, inflamed a situation. Quite frankly to say that only half of the upper arm is handball and that half is determined by a players sleeve ( depending whether he is an attacker or defender so the law is different ). Well in my opinion it is two testicles in a bag.
Now obviously we an agreement to disagree. But for me it is the same as the other week when Utd had a handball decision go against them. By the letter of the law it was not handball but a goal came from it. ??
 
Tashyboy said:
But isnt that the whole point why VAR was brought in. Opinions and decisions by refs were wrong. VAR was brought into help but at times it has rather than helped, inflamed a situation. Quite frankly to say that only half of the upper arm is handball and that half is determined by a players sleeve ( depending whether he is an attacker or defender so the law is different ). Well in my opinion it is two testicles in a bag.
Now obviously we an agreement to disagree. But for me it is the same as the other week when Utd had a handball decision go against them. By the letter of the law it was not handball but a goal came from it. ??
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The speed of the decision speaks aswell

They didn't spend 2-3 minutes slowing it down to see from angle a or b if it was handball

He gave a Goal, var checked and agreed it wasn't handball

Rather than when they spend ages looking it was very quick
 
pauljames87 said:
The speed of the decision speaks aswell

They didn't spend 2-3 minutes slowing it down to see from angle a or b if it was handball

He gave a Goal, var checked and agreed it wasn't handball

Rather than when they spend ages looking it was very quick
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Talking of time to check VAR decisions.... did you see the disallowed goal for offside in the villa match?

I have no issue with the VAR freeze frame that's freely available to view now, but during the game they were streaming what the officials were looking at. Part way through the check they suddenly moved it on an extra frame and in that time the defender was further up the field and left Watkins offside....but to me in the first frame it also looked like that was the moment the pass was made.

What I saw didn't sit right with me, it felt like they wanted to disallow.
 
adam6177 said:
Talking of time to check VAR decisions.... did you see the disallowed goal for offside in the villa match?

I have no issue with the VAR freeze frame that's freely available to view now, but during the game they were streaming what the officials were looking at. Part way through the check they suddenly moved it on an extra frame and in that time the defender was further up the field and left Watkins offside....but to me in the first frame it also looked like that was the moment the pass was made.

What I saw didn't sit right with me, it felt like they wanted to disallow.
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No i didnt see any of the other games today, im on nights this week I had a lovely sleep until 4 lol
 
pauljames87 said:
The speed of the decision speaks aswell

They didn't spend 2-3 minutes slowing it down to see from angle a or b if it was handball

He gave a Goal, var checked and agreed it wasn't handball

Rather than when they spend ages looking it was very quick
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Maybe if they'd have spent more time looking at it they'd have come to the correct decision, rather than the one they did!
 
Slime said:
Maybe if they'd have spent more time looking at it they'd have come to the correct decision, rather than the one they did!
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they could have looked at it for a year and still would have given the same correct decision

your just disappointed as you wanted west ham to be defeated today
 
Tashyboy said:
I don’t understand this post. city play percentage/ dominate football and it works. As a City fan I hope they go for Poch and not ETH.
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It works if you have the manager, players and time to implement it. Even Pep struggled badly at first and he's the best in the business. To go from Ajax to the sharp end of the Premiership and the toughest job in football is a jump too much. He won't get the players and he won't get the time.
 
4LEX said:
It works if you have the manager, players and time to implement it. Even Pep struggled badly at first and he's the best in the business. To go from Ajax to the sharp end of the Premiership and the toughest job in football is a jump too much. He won't get the players and he won't get the time.
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I remember when Pep first came to City and we started playing out from the back with Bravo as keeper. Sweet mother for the fans it was purgatory. I remember Missis Tash once shouted “ just boot it” . It took time but its now a thing of beauty.
If ETH went to Utd his first piece of business should be to bring back Van de Beek from Everton. Get players in that can play to A system, his system. Utds problems will take time. If the next Utd manger is not the correct choice and not given time. Utds woes will continue for some time yet.
 
Papas1982 said:
Great man manager.

His biggest failure is playing Kane in the CL final and losing the entire squads trust.....
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He had overachieved at Spurs and wasn't backed when it mattered. He wanted Grealish before he become top class and Levy wouldn't even go to £30m. It had all gone sour before the CL final season.

Weak mentality of the Spurs squad to think they knew better. Almost any manager would've put faith in Kane for that game. Poch will have won a handful of titles since he left, while Spurs can't even get anywhere near 4th place and have gone through 3 managers in that time.
 
Slime said:
Wrong ....................... but I did want WHU to get beaten today.
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dawson hit it on the head in his interview ..

were you worried when it went to var?

slightly but it counted thats all that matters.
 
4LEX said:
He had overachieved at Spurs and wasn't backed when it mattered. He wanted Grealish before he become top class and Levy wouldn't even go to £30m. It had all gone sour before the CL final season.

Weak mentality of the Spurs squad to think they knew better. Almost any manager would've put faith in Kane for that game. Poch will have won a handful of titles since he left, while Spurs can't even get anywhere near 4th place and have gone through 3 managers in that time.
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I don't agree at all.

Kane wasn't fit. The second he picked him, he showed the squad who was in charge ...
Then again, I think he's a snake and don't like spurs. So not exactly gutted it went wrong for both parties.

As to him winning things compared to what spurs have done. He's gone to PSG. Winning there proves nothing imo.
 
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