Ethan
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Burnley, Watford and Norwich. Unfortunately Newcastle will probably escape. Everton need to be careful, but should escape too.
Bdill93
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Id love Villa to be able to defend 
We were cruising last night, lost Buendia and fell apart. Leeds are nothing special, the same ball over the top every time just pulled us apart... awful from the CB's.
Worst ref I've seen lace it up in the prem in a long time, totally lost control of the game.
Coutinho and Ramsey are just ridiculous.
We go again on Sunday!
We were cruising last night, lost Buendia and fell apart. Leeds are nothing special, the same ball over the top every time just pulled us apart... awful from the CB's.
Worst ref I've seen lace it up in the prem in a long time, totally lost control of the game.
Coutinho and Ramsey are just ridiculous.
We go again on Sunday!
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Id love Villa to be able to defend
. awful from the CB's.
For Sale. One CB.. good player.. keep away from cats
Orikoru
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I'm hoping Salah doesn't play for Liverpool tonight, otherwise it will be the second time this season that Ramsey has been sat on my Fantasy League bench with double-figure points. ?Id love Villa to be able to defend
We were cruising last night, lost Buendia and fell apart. Leeds are nothing special, the same ball over the top every time just pulled us apart... awful from the CB's.
Worst ref I've seen lace it up in the prem in a long time, totally lost control of the game.
Coutinho and Ramsey are just ridiculous.
We go again on Sunday!
HomecountiesJohn
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Id love Villa to be able to defend
We were cruising last night, lost Buendia and fell apart. Leeds are nothing special, the same ball over the top every time just pulled us apart... awful from the CB's.
Worst ref I've seen lace it up in the prem in a long time, totally lost control of the game.
Coutinho and Ramsey are just ridiculous.
We go again on Sunday!
A great game for us neutral's.
I thought the referee had a very good game on the whole. We would usually see that break away for the 3rd Aston Villa goal blown up for a foul. Great decision.
If i were Gerrard, the next purchase would be a replacement for Mings. Overrated would be a compliment.
Bdill93
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That silly man can do one
Bdill93
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Disagree about Mings. We are always better with him than without. He made a goal line clearance last night and the defensive mistakes were not all his.
HomecountiesJohn
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2 goals came from his error. The 1st was a standard pass he miscontrolled,then he was outjumped by the smallest man on the pitch.
Even without those mistakes, he makes basic defensive errors that a international centre half should not make.
I seen him in another game earlier on in the season and he was just as bad.
Good game nevertheless.
Bdill93
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But he's often also class.
England are in a dip in talent at CB, we both know he wouldn't be there if there were a handful of English CB's that were actually any good.
Win percentage with Ming's is higher than it is lower, says it all for me
PNWokingham
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Still time foe Man United!
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babylonsinger
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Think the current bottom three will go down. Still plenty of time for twists and turns mind. Norwich do look like they've improved significantly under Smith (I can't have been the only one who had completely written them off early on?)
Brentford need to start picking some points up or they could be dragged into it - they have some huge fixtures coming up
Brentford need to start picking some points up or they could be dragged into it - they have some huge fixtures coming up
We’re not that bad ?
Swango1980
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I appreciate Antonio is maybe trying to be profound, but he really isn't. He is just deflecting attention from what Zouma did, and trying to imply that this incident is being treated with more importance than a player caught being racist.
It isn't. There is no doubt in my mind that, if a player was filmed being racist, and it was posted for the world to see, the media / public reaction would be significant. And rightly so. I am pretty sure people would be shouting out for that player to be sacked as well, even if the official punishment may end up being a huge fine and an 8 game ban, or whatever. Although, to be honest I would be surprised if a club could keep a player on their books if the world had watched that player first hand being racist, the public image would be extremely toxic and sponsors would run a mile.
For Zoumas incident, yes some people are shouting out for him to be sacked, although I'd imagine the more widespread thought would be some sort of ban, fine and donation to animal welfare charity.
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Much like when Jamie carragher spat at that child and held onto his job? Seemed to blow over in a few weeks
Leeds kept bowyer after being filmed racially abusing an Asian MC Donald's worker .. conviction for affray
Then him and woodgate were done for assault with only woodgate getting convicted his career didn't suffer and it was forgotten
Bet Boris is grateful of a bit of deflection for a few weeks
Swango1980
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Indeed, although Bowyer and Woodgate incidents happened quite some time ago, when unfortunately issues with racism were treated more leniently. If those incidents happened with another player tomorrow, I suspect there would be mass public outrage. Especially if the public viewed the footage of these incidents.
In terms of Carragher, there were massive calls for him to be sacked. That incident probably caused more fuss than the Zouma incident at the time. Unlike West Ham, I believe Sky immediately suspended him, and he didn't return for around 5 months later? So, he did suffer the consequences. I'm sure many individuals still believe he should not have been allowed to return. Personally, I'm glad he did, even with my bias as a Utd fan. He seemed clearly remorseful, and he was given a second chance at a job he clearly loves and one that he obviously does well at.
To be fair, I didn't catch the interviewers question to Antonio, so my response was assuming she was simply asking him what he thought of the incident. If she had actually asked if he should be sacked, then his response would probably be more appropriate.
Fade and Die
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He literally played the Racism card ??
Also didn’t know he drove a taxi ?
Well Kirkland didn't help by suggesting it was worse than rascism and has had to apologise for it
Not really a card when it's a major issue in the world tho
AmandaJR
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I heard that interview and thought at the time his views were a bit strong/skewed and it wouldn't go down well. I think he was trying to make the point that the cat was defenceless against the "attack".
