Slime
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Wowzers, you really are a hater.
Wowzers, you really are a hater.
Liverbirdie
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I was even tempted to take pokerjoke off ignore tonight, but he normally only posted from a position of strength. Wibble.
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Swango1980
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Really? I never heard Ronaldo's name being mentioned, or him even being hinted at.
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??? better than Trent though?
4LEX
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Slime, please correct me on anything I've said. Everything is 100% spot on though.
Matic was a world class DM back in the day. McTominay is a decent box to box midfielder but would get nowhere near an elite side. He can't even make simple passes on a regular basis. These two were outplayed by Wolves midfield that included a 36 year old for perspective. This wasn't Man City or Bayern just a bog standard mid table side. Cavani has the right mentality but his fitness and legs have gone. His peak was 5 years ago at PSG and even then he was still a scatty finisher. Ronaldo is without doubt the best finisher in the league and the fittest 36 year that's ever played the game. But no good without service. AWB is an excellent defensive right back but using him as a main attacking outlet is crazy. Terrible management and it looks like the players have downed tools already.
Slime
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Sod you what about what our fury friend thinks??
In your opinion it’s 100% spot on.
The new manager has hardly got his feet under the table. He’s inherited a team that for months has lacked structure and direction, and you expect that to change overnight?
Utd, currently, don’t look like they’re competing for 4th. They don’t have the players for it, or they’re lacking a system they’re used to… yet. Currently, they’re competing for 5th and are 7th, 3 points off 5th. They’re 4 points off 4th (Arsenal) but not playing at that level…yet.
4-4-2? If it works, fine. However, it looked more like 4-2-2-2. A bit narrow, and conceded the wings to a team well capable of exploiting them. But maybe the players he had to choose from dictated the formation.
The next 4 months and, hopefully, a decent transfer window should see a difference but expecting to see it in 5 weeks is unrealistic at best.
Junior
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There's still some deep rooted problems in the Man U squad. Outplayed over 90 minutes by Newcastle and now Wolves.
I don't know what's worse, the fact I don't see light at the end of the tunnel (yet) or that I'm going to have to put up with Liverpoolphils memes every week.
I don't know what's worse, the fact I don't see light at the end of the tunnel (yet) or that I'm going to have to put up with Liverpoolphils memes every week.
Swango1980
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Agreed.
I am not a fan of fans wanting a manager out after a few weeks. It is ridiculous. The very reason the manager has come in was because the team had been dire for quite some time. So, new guy comes in, and it seems some fans expect us to play like City, Liverpool and Chelsea straight away.
The season was pretty much a write off when Rangnick came in. So, we have until the end of the season to see how he gets on, then we can reevaluate. One advantage, so far, is that we can remove the Ole excuse from the equation now. If Utd continue as they are now, it will be blindingly obvious a lot of the players are not up to it. It pretty much already is. Matic is well past it. We have inexperience on the wings, and players very very low on confidence. Rashford, to name one, really needs to pull his finger out rapidly.
The mental coach that was brought in will have a very busy few months
ColchesterFC
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When a new manager arrives you usually see an upward trajectory of results along with improved performamces of players and a few bumps along the way.
You're spot on about expectations in 5 weeks.
I disagree with you when you say they dont have the squad to finish 4th, player for player i'd say they've got the 3rd best squad in the league.
Neilds
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Is Fergie still too involved? No idea how much power he still has but it can't be easy for any manager coming in with his presence looming large over you. It seems every where you look at Old Trafford you see him.
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I really think fergie got his replacement right but needed more time to stamp his style
Remember talking to United fans at the time and they wanted Moyes before it was even announced
Rome wasn't built in a day and let's face it they have bearly won anything since fergie left . Leaving Moyes in charge with support and investment would have been better choice
I'm glad they didn't tho ..
Junior
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I'd agree mate....on paper we have. What then are the issues? IMO Ronaldo, as good has he is has upset the balance of the side. Pogba hasn't had his 10 games this season where he's that Rolls Royce of a player he can be (it's usually about the Jan transfer window that it kicks in).
Maybe get rid of both of them, play a younger more passionate 4-3-3 team.
Greenwood/Cavani CF, Sancho right, Rashford Left, Bruno, Lingaard, Mctominay, Shaw, Dalot, Varane, Bailly, DDG. IMO this is a team that plays for the badge not insta pictures.
To play RR style from I've seen you need grafters and players willing to put in the hard yards.
Slime
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He and his mates are away right now, hopefully they'll be back for the Villa game.
pendodave
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I'd argue it's been the key to success in the prem for the last 10 years at least. City and liverpool work really hard all the time. If 1 player doesn't, you just can't compete.
As for yernighted players, I'd love then to be so cheesed off with Maguire that they'd give him to WHU for 40mil. I think he'd be great in a Moyes team.
pokerjoke
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Any manager that comes in and doesn’t play Lingard hasn’t watched the P/L for the last year.
Ousted by Ole to West Ham ,played superb for them.
Fred,Matic,VDB ,Bruno all who could be dropped and still no sign of Jesse.
I believe Ronaldo has effected one player more than others and that’s Bruno.
At this stage I would have Cavani as the 9 and have Ronaldo wide left until Sancho or Rashford show significant improvement.
Mason just needs someone to grab him and say get your bloody head up and look for your team mates.
Taking on 35 yard shots is just plain ridiculous.
RR is not the man for the job and I don’t see him manager next season.
If he wants to play a high pressing game he needs to change the personal,and quick.
Ousted by Ole to West Ham ,played superb for them.
Fred,Matic,VDB ,Bruno all who could be dropped and still no sign of Jesse.
I believe Ronaldo has effected one player more than others and that’s Bruno.
At this stage I would have Cavani as the 9 and have Ronaldo wide left until Sancho or Rashford show significant improvement.
Mason just needs someone to grab him and say get your bloody head up and look for your team mates.
Taking on 35 yard shots is just plain ridiculous.
RR is not the man for the job and I don’t see him manager next season.
If he wants to play a high pressing game he needs to change the personal,and quick.
Junior
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I think if you put any of the man u players people are laughing at right now (Maguire, Lindleof, Fred, Lingaard, Rashford, McTominay, AWB etc) in another prem team like West Ham they would stand out.
