The Footie Thread

[Liverbirdie]

Love that episode
Surely you must be sick of Klopps whining.
He’s become more predictable than Liverpool Phil liking all your posts

Reply 2

Strikes talked about by Pep.

Ralf at man U saying about how Johnny foreigner does it and possibly suggesting we should "look at" if we continue with the league cup.

Rafa saying he can't get enough players, but only one story in Tony's mind.

Wibble.

 

[Fade and Die]

Seen on the club website that we are now required to submit an online form stating our vaccination status or providing evidence of a negative test, and that we are symptom free; anyone else noticed this?

And I wonder if the same applies to travelling fans; if not, I wonder what the point is?

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2...on-for-fans-attending-brighton-home-game---de

Had to do one for West Ham/Southampton on Boxing Day before they would send the e tickets. Pointless box ticking exercise.
Be interesting how the Covid passport is monitored at the turnstiles, since WH went over to all digital tickets it’s been chaos most weeks. The idea of the under pressure staff trying to get people to put their phones into the scanner slot the right way round AND check the passport is a joke.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Had to do one for West Ham/Southampton on Boxing Day before they would send the e tickets. Pointless box ticking exercise.
Be interesting how the Covid passport is monitored at the turnstiles, since WH went over to all digital tickets it’s been chaos most weeks. The idea of the under pressure staff trying to get people to put their phones into the scanner slot the right way round AND check the passport is a joke.

Don’t start me on tickets. Premier League games is an electronic card. Anything else, we get emailed a paper ticket to print at home. Why they just can’t enable your season ticket card for the cup matches you buy is a mystery.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Time wasting is the biggest bugbear in football after refs/var. But I don't blame the players or the teams; I blame the refs for allowing it so it's on them aswell. If a team is doing it, add on 10 mins plus. Book/send players off. It could be sorted out within a few weeks if teams were punished for it. But no, the refs allow it and hardly add on any time even when theres multiple examples of it. Fake injuries, slow goal kicks, slow subs etc.

The game shouldn't be stopped unless it's serious. Anytime the game is stopped for treatment, the in question player should be made to stay off for 5 minutes. You'd see faking of injuries cut down by 99% right away.

Nothing is better than seeing a team timewasting get done with a late goal

This.

We've seen it recently at Wolves and on Wednesday night in the cup.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Some of it yes, most of it, no.

I like the xmas fixtures, and wish he wouldnt carry on talking about that.

The 12.30 ko's after CL games - totally agree, as did Ole who brought it up first, and look the questioning/moaning worked and isnt happening now.

Did you call Fergie's moaning out, who was probably for most the worst moaner ever along with Mourinho (wonder what they had in common), or do you only look out for our manager?

I wish the media would stop asking him about it, but just like the 1230 ko's it provides them with news and clicks.

He's spot on actually, the way some are harping on about him you'd think he was asking to cancel christmas fixtures.

You've missed Wenger, Moyes,Allardyce off your list too.

 

[Junior]

Being a referee is an awful job. They have to deal with players diving, time wasting, simulation, (the most annoying for me are the ones going down holding their face so the ref has to stop the game), managers shouting / jesticulating to wind up the crowd, and, of course the millions of bias fans who of course can do their job better than they can.

How do you fix it? Not easy but I think having a game timer and stopping the clock for injuries is a start. Also, stronger punishments for yellow cards (2 or 3 and a match ban?) and more of them may see teams conduct themselves differently.

Hopefully the end product would be less tactical fouling, it would curtail some of the simulation, time-wasting and finally, any player / manager surrounding the referee should also be a yellow.

 

[Foxholer]

Being a referee is an awful job. They have to deal with players diving, time wasting, simulation, (the most annoying for me are the ones going down holding their face so the ref has to stop the game), managers shouting / jesticulating to wind up the crowd, and, of course the millions of bias fans who of course can do their job better than they can.

How do you fix it? Not easy but I think having a game timer and stopping the clock for injuries is a start. Also, stronger punishments for yellow cards (2 or 3 and a match ban?) and more of them may see teams conduct themselves differently.

Hopefully the end product would be less tactical fouling, it would curtail some of the simulation, time-wasting and finally, any player / manager surrounding the referee should also be a yellow.

Sin Bin?

 

[pokerjoke]

Some of it yes, most of it, no.

I like the xmas fixtures, and wish he wouldnt carry on talking about that.

The 12.30 ko's after CL games - totally agree, as did Ole who brought it up first, and look the questioning/moaning worked and isnt happening now.

Did you call Fergie's moaning out, who was probably for most the worst moaner ever along with Mourinho (wonder what they had in common), or do you only look out for our manager?

Always look for anything to do with Liverpool first because then I can post it on here and you can reply and Phil can like your post so he feels he’s part of the Liverpool supporters group
Seriously most managers moan,yes Fergie right up there but he got slaughtered by everyone.
Klopp has always slated English football and how it’s run and how we play to many games,however it doesn’t stop the big teams playing mini tournaments before the season starts,because then it’s all about money.
Klopp has been relentless lately and now he’s got his wish.
Didn’t here what our manager said but they feel German football has got it right,if that’s the case both can go back.
I’m with you about the Xmas period and agree about 12.30 kick offs.
Covid is just being used by some as an excuse for injuries I believe.Could be wrong but it’s even happened in our kids league.

 

[Piece]

Seen on the club website that we are now required to submit an online form stating our vaccination status or providing evidence of a negative test, and that we are symptom free; anyone else noticed this?

And I wonder if the same applies to travelling fans; if not, I wonder what the point is?

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2...on-for-fans-attending-brighton-home-game---de

Ours is optional.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Reply 2

Strikes talked about by Pep.

Ralf at man U saying about how Johnny foreigner does it and possibly suggesting we should "look at" if we continue with the league cup.

Rafa saying he can't get enough players, but only one story in Tony's mind.

Wibble.

I’m not sure why you waste your time mate - better to ignore ?

 

[Fade and Die]

Don’t start me on tickets. Premier League games is an electronic card. Anything else, we get emailed a paper ticket to print at home. Why they just can’t enable your season ticket card for the cup matches you buy is a mystery.

We used to have a card season ticket which if you bought cup games etc they would be loaded onto it. It was great, never any problems and worked for years. Not now though, it’s just e-tickets that they email you on a game by game basis, you either put them into your electronic wallet on your phone or print it off at home then fold them up to fit in the reader slot. It causes hassle every match with older fans struggling with mobiles or dads trying to get kids/Mrs/ through then get In themselves.

On the subject of Christmas fixture they was saying on Talksport that games on Christmas Day used to be common, with Everton (way back in time when they played at Anfield) once played twice on Christmas Day then again on Boxing Day!…Wonder if they had more than a 25 man squad??

 

[Swango1980]

Time wasting is the biggest bugbear in football after refs/var. But I don't blame the players or the teams; I blame the refs for allowing it so it's on them aswell. If a team is doing it, add on 10 mins plus. Book/send players off. It could be sorted out within a few weeks if teams were punished for it. But no, the refs allow it and hardly add on any time even when theres multiple examples of it. Fake injuries, slow goal kicks, slow subs etc.

The game shouldn't be stopped unless it's serious. Anytime the game is stopped for treatment, the in question player should be made to stay off for 5 minutes. You'd see faking of injuries cut down by 99% right away.

Nothing is better than seeing a team timewasting get done with a late goal

I'm not sure about forcing a player to stay off for 5 minutes. If a player genuinely gets hurt, you are punishing that team by being down a man for 5 minutes.

I know it has been mentioned, but always wondered why play cannot continue, like in rugby, whilst a player gets treated? The medical staff can make a quick assessment. If the feel the injury is serious, and the player needs to come off, they can communicate to the ref who can stop the game. This will ensure the player can get the extensive treatment, and that team is not punished by being a man down. However, that player will need to be subbed.

With subs generally, could these not be done whilst game is in progress? A msg just needs to be sent to ref to day sub(s) will soon be made. The 4th official can ensure theaw are done correctly, with one player leaving the field before another enters.

With general time wasting, a ref just needs to note any incidents and make it known to players it is a time wasting incident. Players can be booked as normal. However, if 3 incidents are noted in any half, the ref can then add an additional 5 minutes to game on top of any other injury time that had to be played. Teams could also.face extra penalties, such as fines or points deductions, if they are guilty of this in a specified number of games.

 

[Piece]

In my opinion and that of the vast majority, if not all of season ticket holders that sit around us. Most teams in the lower half of the Premiership do it but Burnley are by far the worst. Numerous false starts for goal kicks & throw ins, arguing amongst the defence to delay retrieving the dead ball & restarting, "cramp" which is bad enough to warrant going down but never quite bad enough to require leaving the field for treatment, keepers laying on the ball unnecessarily to name a few.

So how do you conclude that it doesn't bother fans; which matches do you go to, & how frequently?

I don't agree with a time keeper but in certain games you know that as a fan you've been done, time wise. Many subs, injuries, time wasting and yet how often do you get a min of three mins added at the end?

And BIM is spot on. Burnley are the worse at time wasting and spoiling. ?

 

[Tashyboy]

Burnley V Everton postponed on Boxing Day, just had a look at league table. At the end of Boxing Day City and other teams wil have played 4 more games than Burnley.Games played by teams are all over the place. From Feb to the end of the seasons the fixture list will be all over the place ?

 

[Tashyboy]

Ave said this before and I will say it again. There is a difference between a player who is hurt and a player who is injured. Most players who are injured know it. And they sit on there Jacksys waiting to be subbed.
Most players who are “ hurt” and I use that term very very loosely roll around and scream like they have been shot by a Jap sniper. Players use this “ hurt” to waste time, stop play, stop the rhythm of opposing teams, protect a lead or draw. If the game is stopped for two mins. Keep him off the pitch for two mins. Simple.
Re time wasting, I said it quite a few pages back. Burnley are the worst. If a red card tackle in the first minute is the same as the last. Why is time wasting in the first minute treated differently from the last 20 minutes. Every game I have seen Burnley play, it is the same from the first minute. Throw ins, corners, goal kicks, free kicks.it is purgatory. Keepers holding the ball for 6 seconds, really. Ave been for a tiddle and bought a pie in the time Nick Pope has held onto the ball.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

All these postponements are playing havoc with my fantasy football. Don't these people think about the impact they have on mini leagues?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Always look for anything to do with Liverpool first because then I can post it on here and you can reply and Phil can like your post so he feels he’s part of the Liverpool supporters group
Seriously most managers moan,yes Fergie right up there but he got slaughtered by everyone.
Klopp has always slated English football and how it’s run and how we play to many games,however it doesn’t stop the big teams playing mini tournaments before the season starts,because then it’s all about money.
Klopp has been relentless lately and now he’s got his wish.
Didn’t here what our manager said but they feel German football has got it right,if that’s the case both can go back.
I’m with you about the Xmas period and agree about 12.30 kick offs.
Covid is just being used by some as an excuse for injuries I believe.Could be wrong but it’s even happened in our kids league.

I know you're a stickler for rules Tony, your constant trolling isnt allowed or do you think you're above the rules?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I'm all for my team playing on if Players rolling round the floor wanting the ball kicked out so they can get up, hobble for 4 steps, wince then get back in to position and play on like nothings happened. It'll soon stop.

Likewise when/if it goes against us. Crack on.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Being a referee is an awful job. They have to deal with players diving, time wasting, simulation, (the most annoying for me are the ones going down holding their face so the ref has to stop the game), managers shouting / jesticulating to wind up the crowd, and, of course the millions of bias fans who of course can do their job better than they can.

How do you fix it? Not easy but I think having a game timer and stopping the clock for injuries is a start. Also, stronger punishments for yellow cards (2 or 3 and a match ban?) and more of them may see teams conduct themselves differently.

Hopefully the end product would be less tactical fouling, it would curtail some of the simulation, time-wasting and finally, any player / manager surrounding the referee should also be a yellow.

Whilst I largely agree with your post, having seen some of the recent mystifying decisions by the referee that VAR has supported, there may actually be a case that the biased fans could do a better job.

The other alternative could be to involve more women in officiating, as Sian Massey-Ellis seems to be head & shoulders above her male counterparts.

(Turns off computer & retires with a bottle of malt as the internet melts down at the very thought. )

 

[Deleted member 15344]