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[Deleted member 21784]

Spurs are now out of the Europa Conference League. As Spurs could not fulfil their fixture against Rennes due to 13 positive Covid cases at Spurs, UEFA have given Rennes a 3-0 win.

I wonder if UEFA are taking Covid seriously, and have enough contingency plans? Imagine the uproar if the Premier League started awarding 3-0 wins to teams last weekend, as matches were called off due to Covid.

When I played golf with my spurs friend he was telling me UEFA had extended the deadline for the game for spurs because it was like real madrid being out the champs league spurs not being in this because they were one the big players

lol didnt work out

to be fair spurs should have been through before this game anyways , the standard of the football they played against wasnt great

can see them going on a run now tho without europe to worry about and with conte at the wheel with the january window coming and these games that should have been played with this squad being able to use the new players i think they will benefit from all the mess

 

[BrianM]

Are u saying he wasn’t caught?

He was caught, but if his leg was still planted it would of been broken.

 

[pokerjoke]

He was caught, but if his leg was still planted it would of been broken.

Who knows
It takes extreme force for that to happen.

 

[BrianM]

Who knows
It takes extreme force for that to happen.

Obviously we will never know (Thankfully)
I don't support Liverpool, but you obviously have a dislike for them I'm assuming
It shouldn't matter who you support, you don't want to see tackles like that.
Robertson's red was right as well, although he wasn't really going to injure the boy, the red mist appeared.
I've played and seen enough football to know that was a shocking challenge and VAR never did his job.

 

[pokerjoke]

Obviously we will never know (Thankfully)
I don't support Liverpool, but you obviously have a dislike for them I'm assuming
It shouldn't matter who you support, you don't want to see tackles like that.
Robertson's red was right as well, although he wasn't really going to injure the boy, the red mist appeared.
I've played and seen enough football to know that was a shocking challenge and VAR never did his job.

Obviously you will have to go back a few pages but I have said both were reds.
No var didn’t do it’s job but we are getting used to that.
These var officials need to face the media and ask them why they came to their decision.
Yes major dislike for Liverpool but I also never want to see a player seriously injured whoever they play for.

 

[Swango1980]

Obviously we will never know (Thankfully)
I don't support Liverpool, but you obviously have a dislike for them I'm assuming
It shouldn't matter who you support, you don't want to see tackles like that.
Robertson's red was right as well, although he wasn't really going to injure the boy, the red mist appeared.
I've played and seen enough football to know that was a shocking challenge and VAR never did his job.

I think both were probably red.

In terms of intent, we'll never 100% know. But, I am pretty sure Kane never meant to injure his opponent. He simply flew in to an aggressive challenge to try and win the ball. It was out of control, and ultimately he could have broken Robertson's ankle. So, I do not think there'd be too many arguments if he was given a red card. Not because he had a deliberate intent to hurt an opponent, but because he was out of control.

However, I'm not sure you can say Robertson had no intent to injure, especially when you also acknowledge the term red mist. When any player gets the red mist, it often means that they act in an aggressive manner knowing that the opponent is likely to get hurt. I'm not saying he wanted to cause him serious damage, but in that second of the red mist appearing, he had battered his opponent, knowing full well what he was doing.

 

[Orikoru]

I think both were probably red.

In terms of intent, we'll never 100% know. But, I am pretty sure Kane never meant to injure his opponent. He simply flew in to an aggressive challenge to try and win the ball. It was out of control, and ultimately he could have broken Robertson's ankle. So, I do not think there'd be too many arguments if he was given a red card. Not because he had a deliberate intent to hurt an opponent, but because he was out of control.

However, I'm not sure you can say Robertson had no intent to injure, especially when you also acknowledge the term red mist. When any player gets the red mist, it often means that they act in an aggressive manner knowing that the opponent is likely to get hurt. I'm not saying he wanted to cause him serious damage, but in that second of the red mist appearing, he had battered his opponent, knowing full well what he was doing.

Well, Kane doesn't agree, he said he thought he won the ball and was surprised to get a yellow card. Love the feller but I had a good laugh at that one. Won the ball with his arm maybe.

 

[Swango1980]

Well, Kane doesn't agree, he said he thought he won the ball and was surprised to get a yellow card. Love the feller but I had a good laugh at that one. Won the ball with his arm maybe.

That is why I said "most". And, in all fairness, you can take what Kane says to the media with a pinch of salt. Even if he thinks he was lucky not to get sent off, why would he come out in the media and admit that? Procedures probably wouldn't allow it anyway, but it wouldn't work in his favour if he said he should have been sent off, and then the FA were to give him a ban (he'd have no real defence). Even though they probably could not give a retrospective ban, it might edge officials in future making a subjective call against him, rather than for him.

If I made that challenge and got away with no red card, I'd be telling the public it wasn't a red card, and my feeling at the time was that I "thought" I had won it. In private, I would be laughing with my mates saying I got away with one.

 

[Orikoru]

That is why I said "most". And, in all fairness, you can take what Kane says to the media with a pinch of salt. Even if he thinks he was lucky not to get sent off, why would he come out in the media and admit that? Procedures probably wouldn't allow it anyway, but it wouldn't work in his favour if he said he should have been sent off, and then the FA were to give him a ban (he'd have no real defence). Even though they probably could not give a retrospective ban, it might edge officials in future making a subjective call against him, rather than for him.

If I made that challenge and got away with no red card, I'd be telling the public it wasn't a red card, and my feeling at the time was that I "thought" I had won it. In private, I would be laughing with my mates saying I got away with one.

I just thought it was funny. I thought he might say yes I was a touch late and a yellow card was fair enough. To say he won the ball though was a cracker. As I said, he only won it with him arm! I'm not sure that counts. ?

 

[Swango1980]

I just thought it was funny. I thought he might say yes I was a touch late and a yellow card was fair enough. To say he won the ball though was a cracker. As I said, he only won it with him arm! I'm not sure that counts. ?

It does if Salah does it in a build up to a Liverpool goal

 

[Liverbirdie]

Who knows
It takes extreme force for that to happen.

Agreed, an out of control, lunging 12 stone England captain is easily enough, or not on this occasion.

 

[Liverbirdie]

It does if Salah does it in a build up to a Liverpool goal

Come on, you've got to give Mo some elbow room.

 

[Fade and Die]

Spurs are now out of the Europa Conference League. As Spurs could not fulfil their fixture against Rennes due to 13 positive Covid cases at Spurs, UEFA have given Rennes a 3-0 win.

I wonder if UEFA are taking Covid seriously, and have enough contingency plans? Imagine the uproar if the Premier League started awarding 3-0 wins to teams last weekend, as matches were called off due to Covid.

Think Spurs are pleased about that to be honest. Never thought they were very interested in the competition.

 

[clubchamp98]

I just thought it was funny. I thought he might say yes I was a touch late and a yellow card was fair enough. To say he won the ball though was a cracker. As I said, he only won it with him arm! I'm not sure that counts. ?

It did for Mo.

 

[pokerjoke]

Agreed, an out of control, lunging 12 stone England captain is easily enough, or not on this occasion.

I hope the refs and var officials when looking at Kane don’t see him as England captain I certainly don’t.
On this occasion I don’t think the force would have been enough,but as I said who knows.
One thing a lot of people talk about is “if the leg was planted “ fortunately this doesn’t happen too often,in fact it’s rare.
The human mind seems to act fast enough for players to take evasive action.
Thought Klopps post match interview was very fair

 

[Orikoru]

Think Spurs are pleased about that to be honest. Never thought they were very interested in the competition.

The players who played in it didn't look like they were anyway. Given that we have 3 games in hand to fit in already I'm sure we won't be bothered about the lack of more games.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

The players who played in it didn't look like they were anyway. Given that we have 3 games in hand to fit in already I'm sure we won't be bothered about the lack of more games.

I just don't get it, trophy is a trophy

Win it.. it's something in the cabinet and on the CV

Same with Carling cup if he don't go all out what's the point? More teams should take it seriously

 

[Orikoru]

I just don't get it, trophy is a trophy

Win it.. it's something in the cabinet and on the CV

Same with Carling cup if he don't go all out what's the point? More teams should take it seriously

I'd agree if we were talking Europa but this competition really was a nonsense to be frank. More comps just devalues it more than ever. We're nearly at a point where top half of the Prem gets you in Europe, it's a bit silly.

If we won that comp I don't think everyone would have been satisfied that we'd now won a trophy. They'd have just changed the message to say we haven't won a proper trophy for X years. Nobody would respect it.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I hope the refs and var officials when looking at Kane don’t see him as England captain I certainly don’t.
On this occasion I don’t think the force would have been enough,but as I said who knows.
One thing a lot of people talk about is “if the leg was planted “ fortunately this doesn’t happen too often,in fact it’s rare.
The human mind seems to act fast enough for players to take evasive action.
Thought Klopps post match interview was very fair

It was more than enough to break a leg, a straight on sliding tackle onto the shin breaks the leg 90-100% of the time if the foot is planted.

Yes they do take evasive action, but the tackles have been judged on the potential rather than the actual for a long time, although I do have some sympathy with some challenges where the receiver has placed his foot in a different place at the last minute and the tackler has followed through onto it in error, normally when tackling from the side though. This wasnt one of them, though.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Premier League will be going ahead (as it stands)

13 available players plus a keeper

Could make for some cracking matches lol