The Footie Thread

[Swango1980]

The game is then stopped by the Referee isn’t it? ie, outside the Law for entering or leaving the field without permission.

The game is stopped while the player receives treatment on the pitch, yes. However, he is then taken off the pitch as soon as possible, and the game will restart with the player still off the pitch.

I agree that by re-entering the pitch and going down injured, then the game is at least stopped for a good amount of the treatment time. So, it is no surprise Arteta did what he did. However, it possibly does show he was more interested in Arsenal being a man down than the welfare of the player.

 

[Orikoru]

How about you show me were I’m wrong?

I agree it looks bad, but if he’d of had treatment off the pitch he couldn’t of reentered without the Refs permission, Arsenal would of been playing 1 man down, Arteta is looking after Arsenal.

Why do you always pick the obviously ridiculous side of any debate and try and defend the indefensible? A player is not going to be reprimanded for leaving the pitch when injured, because in doing so he allows the game to continue while he gets treatment. i.e. the referee would obviously give permission implicitly - like he does when they get the ball for a throw-in or simply run past the lines. It was very clearly an act of time-wasting from Arteta, and to say anything different would be absurd.

 

[fundy]

That is one hell of a lot of players leaving the club soon!

Id love to add a couple more too (Xhaka, Aubameyang)

Most will still be there until the summer I expect, may get one or two off the books in January if were lucky

Bear in mind 12 senior players left in the summer too, shows just how bad the squad is/was. Hopefully Saliba will come back in the summer albeit wouldnt be surprised if he tells Arteta and Arsenal where to stick it!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Cautionable offences A player is cautioned if guilty of:
•  delaying the restart of play •  dissent by word or action
•  entering, re-entering or deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission

You do know the field of play includes the touch line? And surrounding areas ...

Its not like he's gone down to the dressing room.

So I’m correct then
You wanted Arteta charged and all sorts!

Edit:You’re wrong on the field of play:

The field of play is rectangular and marked with lines called boundary lines. The two longer boundary lines are touch lines and the two shorter lines are goal lines. It is divided into two halves by a halfway line, which joins the midpoints of the two touch lines.

No mention of surrounding areas.

 

[fundy]

Did read one interesting article the other day where a lot of clubs/agents expect there to be a much reduced loan market this January as the big clubs refuse to let players out on loan to cover covid shortages (and that some may even look to recall players out on loan to cover issues)

 

[Foxholer]

Cautionable offences A player is cautioned if guilty of:
•  delaying the restart of play •  dissent by word or action
•  entering, re-entering or deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission

You do know the field of play includes the touch line? And surrounding areas ...

Its not like he's gone down to the dressing room.

Tut tut!
Destroying a 'good' opinion with facts! Shame on you! Remember, this is Football!

 

[Orikoru]

With the Jan window coming up, who would you like your club to be looking to sign?

We need two new centre backs for a start. Probably a creative CM since Ndombele was meant to be that but he cannot be arsed to actually play. I'd like to see Sanchez sold, along with Ndombele if he's not going to make an effort, and as much as it pains me to say it, Dele can go for the same reason. Bergwijn can go as well simply because he's not very good. There are others we could easily stand to lose as well but you're not going to sell everyone at once. Another striker to offer at least a modicum of competition/support to Kane would be nice, but we've been saying that for 7 years so not holding my breath.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why do you always pick the obviously ridiculous side of any debate and try and defend the indefensible? A player is not going to be reprimanded for leaving the pitch when injured, because in doing so he allows the game to continue while he gets treatment. i.e. the referee would obviously give permission implicitly - like he does when they get the ball for a throw-in or simply run past the lines. It was very clearly an act of time-wasting from Arteta, and to say anything different would be absurd.

How about you try educating yourself before being rude and offensive to those who don’t see it the way you do?

By putting Martinelli back on the pitch, to get the Referee to stop the game, to give Arteta a chance to reorganise his team and see if the injury is serious or not is Arteta doing his job.

How can it be time wasting when the time is added on in injury time?

Maybe it was also 15yrs as a Referee, listening to “expert amatuer players” think they know it all.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The game is stopped while the player receives treatment on the pitch, yes. However, he is then taken off the pitch as soon as possible, and the game will restart with the player still off the pitch.

I agree that by re-entering the pitch and going down injured, then the game is at least stopped for a good amount of the treatment time. So, it is no surprise Arteta did what he did. However, it possibly does show he was more interested in Arsenal being a man down than the welfare of the player.

He’s not taken off the pitch as soon as possible, he’s taken off once he’s able to move.

It’s also possible Arteta was doing both.

 

[fundy]

Leicester v Spurs cancelled

 

[fundy]

Sounds like Chelsea had 3 more +ve tests too

 

[Orikoru]

Leicester v Spurs cancelled

Our plan to win the league without anyone noticing by having 8 games in hand at the end.

 

[fundy]

Our plan to win the league without anyone noticing by having 8 games in hand at the end.

when does Conte start complaining about your schedule? January I assume lol

 

[Orikoru]

when does Conte start complaining about your schedule? January I assume lol

At least we've binned Europe off.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

How about you try educating yourself before being rude and offensive to those who don’t see it the way you do?

By putting Martinelli back on the pitch, to get the Referee to stop the game, to give Arteta a chance to reorganise his team and see if the injury is serious or not is Arteta doing his job.

How can it be time wasting when the time is added on in injury time?

Maybe it was also 15yrs as a Referee, listening to “expert amatuer players” think they know it all.

By putting him back on the pitch is re-entering the field of play without permission so two yellows ..

Also he put the player at risk of further injury by moving him

He isn't a medical expert.

Where has a player ever been booked for going off the touchline ? Kieran dyer ran down the advertising hoarding around a player to score a cracking goal for Newcastle back in the day

Arteta just cheated. Plain and simply and is hiding by a "law" that's misinterpreted

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Really saw you pushing higher this year pre-season! Not quite what I expected thus far - but plenty of time to get it right before the season is over

We have a good 14 or so but no depth. We have had injuries and or lack of form in some key areas, CF is the obvious one. We need to get Calvert Lewin back and firing quickly. That gets Richarlison back to his correct role and the crosses Gray is putting across will finally have someone on the end of them. Hopefully he will be back shortly after Christmas and that should help massively.

The full backs are also a problem. Digne is a key provider for us but he has lost form / fallen out with Benitez. At the same time Coleman on the other side is starting to look very old all of a sudden, although he is only 33. We don't have replacements for either of them and it is showing. Key supply lines have fallen off a cliff.

 

[Neilds]

By putting him back on the pitch is re-entering the field of play without permission so two yellows ..

Also he put the player at risk of further injury by moving him

He isn't a medical expert.

Where has a player ever been booked for going off the touchline ? Kieran dyer ran down the advertising hoarding around a player to score a cracking goal for Newcastle back in the day

Arteta just cheated. Plain and simply and is hiding by a "law" that's misinterpreted

Assuming the player was actually injured in the first place - most aren't!!!!

 

[fundy]

United Brighton at the weekend off now too

Must be close to them cancelling all games for a week or two surely

 

[Deleted member 21784]

United Brighton at the weekend off now too

Must be close to them cancelling all games for a week or two surely

It would make much more sense to cancel all games for a week as a mini circuit breaker than play some and not the others

 

[Orikoru]

It would make much more sense to cancel all games for a week as a mini circuit breaker than play some and not the others

This is actually the perfect time - if they cancelled this weekend, then after today's game it would be 10 days until the next matches (Boxing Day). I guess that doesn't account for training, but still.