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no Salah ???
Yet amazingly 5 Barcelona players ??
And Alves ???
no Salah ???
Yet amazingly 5 Barcelona players ??
And Alves ???
Same answer as before.
I wouldn't have a striker as captain either. You need someone who can reach everyone in the team and by sheer geography on a pitch neither the keeper or a cf can do that.
Incidentally, 2 names from the last 40-50 years means an awful lot of other winning captain's who played outfield ??
Pin-seeker
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Shearer?
fundy
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City been awesome against an awful Leeds side tonight. Must be a happy Tashy somewhere
need_my_wedge
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In my opinion, it's not about what he can see, it's about his isolation from players he may need to talk to. He can't just run out of his area for a quick word when needed.
need_my_wedge
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I'm curious?
Canary_Yellow
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Went down injured blocking a shot as if it had smashed in the face or something, but it had actually hit his hand ?
I'm quite happy that he helps to prove my point ?. Toon fans worship him but most will admit he was not a good captain.
It's clearly possible to search out winning captain's who were either a gk or cf, not suggesting you hit Google by the way, Shearer was a well known captain, but they are massively in the minority and most captain's of repute have been defenders or midfielders. There can be exceptions, aren't there always, but on the whole I'd pick someone from those positions as captain every time.
Tashyboy
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Yup al take that, been out with tricky Trev and his new Missis. Both have lost there previous partners so it was first time out with them both. Putting things into perspective Ave had a better night seeing me pal smile again than seeing City win.
Neuer was recently. Has/was German captain for the last five years minimum. Lazy to use that argument
The last sentence was said with a smile, hence the emojis. Anyway, we clearly disagree, that's fine ?. I'm sure others are bored of this now so I'll leave it there. Enjoy your day.
Orikoru
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I get what you guys are saying. I don't think anyone means all goalkeeper captains were bad captains. It just means they're a bit limited in their contribution. If an argument breaks out in the opponent's box and your players need calming down, the keeper has to run 100 yards to do so. Generally over contentious decisions the captain should speak to the ref on behalf of his players (that's how it used to be anyway), and again, the keeper may have to cover a lot of ground in order to do so. At Spurs Lloris is our captain, and I'm sure he's been great, the players all respect him and so on, but on the pitch I'd probably rather it had been Kane (prior to this season anyway ?). Then again, as was said earlier, you need more than one leader on the pitch so perhaps Kane is one of those who doesn't need the armband (again... prior to this season maybe ?).
Swango1980
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It makes sense that the best captains would typically be midfielders, or maybe defenders. Players that cover a lot of ground, and are likely to be able to get up close and personal with their team mates on a regular basis. Players that run a lot, and their sheer work rate can lead by example alone. Defenders probably are also in a good position, as they are positioned in an area of a pitch that requires organisation, rather than forwards who are in an area of a pitch where creativity plays a bigger part (albeit organisation is also important). No hard and fast rule though, I'm sure many teams have had success with GKs or FWs as captains. I'm sure those teams also had big characters in the middle of the pitch anyway, that acted like captains, even if not officially.
As a Utd fan, Roy Keane was our ultimate captain. Liverpool fans it was Gerrard. I guess Arsenal it would be Viera. If those characters were actually goalkeepers rather than midfielders, maybe they'd have still been club captains. But, speaking for myself, I'm glad Roy Keane had the attributes to be a midfielder rather than a goalkeeper, as I doubt he'd have been as influential stuck back in goal.
As a Utd fan, Roy Keane was our ultimate captain. Liverpool fans it was Gerrard. I guess Arsenal it would be Viera. If those characters were actually goalkeepers rather than midfielders, maybe they'd have still been club captains. But, speaking for myself, I'm glad Roy Keane had the attributes to be a midfielder rather than a goalkeeper, as I doubt he'd have been as influential stuck back in goal.
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Here is one for you
Pick your teams best 5 A side team
Alisson
VVD
Gerrard
Suarez
Fowler
Pick your teams best 5 A side team
Alisson
VVD
Gerrard
Suarez
Fowler
No heskey?
Swango1980
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Orikoru
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In my lifetime...
Lloris
Vertonghen
Dembele
Son
Kane
King was the best defender but I've gone for Vertonghen since it's 5-a-side so he gets more marks for being the best on the ball out of the central defenders I've seen. Son just about gets the nod over Bale but it is close. Maybe they can play a half each. Mousa Dembele was just an unbelievable player, if you came up against him in 5-a-side you'd be on your knees by the end.
Bdill93
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EASSSY W last night for the villa.
What a first half performance and what a goal from Ramsey!
Villa under Gerrard are different gravy!
What a first half performance and what a goal from Ramsey!
Villa under Gerrard are different gravy!
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