Pin-seeker
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All he wants is for people to give Alisson a fee catch from set pieces,surely that’s not too much to ask ?
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DanFST
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Calmed down a bit now from the win.
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I didn't think at the time, but on that replay it's a red. Jota also got Soucek a yellow Before half time with a blatent dive with 0 contact.
- Cresswell could have been off, his foot bounces off the ball weirdly so it looks way worse, and I don't like them called, but could see him getting a red. Credit to Henderson not rolling around like a toddler, that may have saved the red.
- If Lpool fans were certain the atheltico breaking up of play was a red, they should of had a few for breaking up our counter attacks.
- I'm concerned about the decisions going against us, we arent a team that follow and shout at officials, we don't dive and roll around (apart from Fornals, and he gets abuse for it from the home crowd)
- Matic kneeing Coufal, (resulted in groin injury).
- Rondon Stamping on Soucek ( Stitches and platic surgery).
- Hause destroying fornals with an elbow.
- Jota above.
All have caused injury, and affected that game and subsequent ones, no VAR, no retrospective action.
- Virgil Van Dyke is an absolutely incredible player.
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I didn't think at the time, but on that replay it's a red. Jota also got Soucek a yellow Before half time with a blatent dive with 0 contact.
- Cresswell could have been off, his foot bounces off the ball weirdly so it looks way worse, and I don't like them called, but could see him getting a red. Credit to Henderson not rolling around like a toddler, that may have saved the red.
- If Lpool fans were certain the atheltico breaking up of play was a red, they should of had a few for breaking up our counter attacks.
- I'm concerned about the decisions going against us, we arent a team that follow and shout at officials, we don't dive and roll around (apart from Fornals, and he gets abuse for it from the home crowd)
- Matic kneeing Coufal, (resulted in groin injury).
- Rondon Stamping on Soucek ( Stitches and platic surgery).
- Hause destroying fornals with an elbow.
- Jota above.
All have caused injury, and affected that game and subsequent ones, no VAR, no retrospective action.
- Virgil Van Dyke is an absolutely incredible player.
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Deleted member 16999
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Spot on, see post #17786, that elbow has not moved in a natural direction.
pokerjoke
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Klopp is a very good manager,but for the life of me I can’t believe he didn’t play Salah
Why would you not play the best player in the world,lmao.
Agree VD just a Rolls Royce of a defender.
Really really liking Rice .
Why would you not play the best player in the world,lmao.
Agree VD just a Rolls Royce of a defender.
Really really liking Rice .
Certainly wouldn’t say no.
clubchamp98
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Yes I agree Jota was very lucky to get away with that.
But having said that Ogbonna had his arm above his head which blocked Alissons punch ,and although he didn’t touch the ball his arm is not in a natural position.
Cresswell was a stonewall red for me shocking tackle.
Holgates for Everton was similar but more forceful but he clearly got the ball and followed through.
This just highlighted how inconsistent refs and VAR can be
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Deleted member 15344
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The Ref was shocking - but it’s Pawson and Atwell so I’m not surprised
1. goal - there plenty of pictures that show the defenders arm impending the GK
2. Henderson - tackle was a clear red
3. Jota - if VAR look closely and he is sent off then it wouldn’t be overturned
4. Salah - he doesn’t need to go down as the contact would have happened with Rice
if they need an example of how not to ref a game they can use that game
West Ham deserved to win the game but could have been different with decisions from the ref
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Deleted member 16999
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You are allowed to challenge at a corner, Ogbonna was in a natural position going for the ball, Alisson was more worried about being impeded by Antonio and, imo, wasn’t concentrating on getting the ball.
Goalkeepers get far too much protection imo.
Both Cresswell and Holgate deserved Red, unfortunately only 1 official called it correctly.
We’ll always have inconsistencies, it’s part of the game and we really only get upset when it affects our own team.
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Eddie Howe confirmed as The Mags new Head Coach on a 3yr contract.
Good luck to him.
Good luck to him.
Fade and Die
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clubchamp98
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No he wasn’t if you have got your arm above your head (in football any way )it’s not a natural position.
Although what’s a natural position.
Agree about the keeper he should have got a defender in between them.
Canary_Yellow
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Eddie Howe confirmed as The Mags new Head Coach on a 3yr contract.
Good luck to him.
He's going to need it
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Deleted member 21784
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Sorry but no. Can we stop this natural position rubbish as that only counts for hand ball
Ball didn't touch ogbonna hand there for it makes zero odds
Allison did poor end of story
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Deleted member 16999
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But Alisson jumped into the back of Agbonna, Agbonna didn’t raise his arms to obstruct anyone it was a natural leap to head the ball, surely you understand using your arms as leverage to jump up?
ColchesterFC
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Too often see them given though. Attacker jumps vertically to try to head the ball, the keeper comes flying out and jumps into the attacker and gets given the free kick. They seem to be letting more minor contact go on outfield players, let's hope they do the same for keepers as well.
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Totally agree. Keepers get the benefit most of the time.
Swango1980
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1. It was not a foul on the keeper. Even Jamie Carragher didn't think so, nor any of the other pundits I heard. Normally if it was dubious, or a blatant miss by ref, it would generate lots of debate. I've only heard Klopp and a handful of Liverpool fans say it was a foul, so can read nothing into that. I remember Calvert Lewin smashed DeGea with his arm (think is was around Dec 2019) and the ball went in, goal was given.
2. Wasn't a clear red, as VAR would have given it. There must have been some doubt there. Although his foot bounced up high, it appeared to be only a glancing blow on Henderson. Certainly didn't seem to cause Henderson too much pain. Yes, it looked dodgy when seeing the still and where his foot was, but I think red would have been harsh (but could see it either way based on how refs act)
3. Looked a bit sneaky. It is difficult to know how a player would ever get sent off for an elbow these days though (unless a second yellow for a tall striker), unless it is an obvious one like Leonardo when he played at Milan.
4. I didn't really notice the Salah incident at the time, I wasn't watching the TV. When I saw it briefly later, it looked a dive
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Not sure what the Carragher reference is about - as I said there are plenty of pics around showing the contact and it’s one you have seen given before plenty of times. If it’s not deemed a foul then I hope it’s consistent now
VAR not giving doesn’t mean it still wasn’t a red card - Cresswell went in strong went over the ball and straight onto Henderson knee - thankfully the standing leg wasn’t set or it could have been a serious injury - if it’s Henderson on Cresswell and a red is given there would have been no complaints at all
It is very sneaky - the only thing that’s impossible to judge is intent - if they give that as a red then it wouldn’t be overturned
I’m amazed that the referee wasn’t asked to go to the monitor both times to check
When it happened it looked like Rice had come across him and caught Salah - on the replay Salah has clearly gone down expecting the touch - it’s poor
The referee was shocking , Atwell was as well - but on balance of play the result was right
ColchesterFC
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He dived LP. It's not poor, it's cheating. He dived and he cheated. Can you really not bring yourself to admit that one of your players dived? That's four or five posts since it happened where you've used mealy mouthed words to avoid using the word dive or cheat.
