The Footie Thread

  • Thread starter Thread starter Deleted member 15344
  • Start date Start date
You basically had all that with Moyes.. very well respected in the league at the time, players could look up to him as he was a respectable guy .. would be long term build

But the fans just couldn't accept it wasn't fergie
Your last sentence is extremely relevant though. Pretty much any manager was going to struggle after Fergie. Not just with fans, but with players to. Especially if they didn't have success. I know Rio Ferdinand didn't like him, but there will always be doubt and comparisons between Fergie and what a new manager does.

Moyes ran a stable club in Everton. But, he wasnt exactly known as playing good attractive football. He also hadn't won much as manager, just the second division with Preston.

And, realistically, if Klopp left Liverpool or Pep left City, would their fans get excited about Moyes replacing them? Doubt it.
 
Watched MOTD last night and it was the first time I saw the “talking points”. For me the 1st goal was good. Not West Ham’s fault Alison was doing the Hand Jive when he should have been at work!
The Creswell challenge, his foot bounced off the ball up to Henderson’s knee, looked bad when they froze it but he wasn’t in control and if it had been a red I couldn’t complain.

As for the Salah “foul”….. I could tell he was up to his tricks as soon as it happened - even before the replay confirmed it - when he simulates, he does a little signature jump in the air and then rolls on his side.

 
Watched MOTD last night and it was the first time I saw the “talking points”. For me the 1st goal was good. Not West Ham’s fault Alison was doing the Hand Jive when he should have been at work!
The Creswell challenge, his foot bounced off the ball up to Henderson’s knee, looked bad when they froze it but he wasn’t in control and if it had been a red I couldn’t complain.

As for the Salah “foul”….. I could tell he was up to his tricks as soon as it happened - even before the replay confirmed it - when he simulates, he does a little signature jump in the air and then rolls on his side.


Really hate it when players with that much talent have to reduce themselves to diving

Cresswell I thought they would give red .. but the foot bounce must have come into it

Jamie redknapp hit nail on head.. Allison needs to focus on doing his job he was too interested in pushing Antonio

Love that Nolan is keeping his legacy going lol
 
Poor defending by Watford but definitely a controversial goal. Watford put the ball out as one of their players was down. Arsenal then didn't give it back from the throw in. And a probable foul on Sarr as Watford tried to clear before Arsenal won the ball and scored.

Frankly, that was crap from the ref and crap from Arsenal. I was at the game and was very unhappy. Watching the highlights, even more so.

Arsenal were the better side, so no complaints, but let's have it fair and sporting please.
 
I think we have a Villa fan, maybe more than one, on here. What is the thinking regarding Smith? I know the season has not started well and you are 5 on the bounce but did he deserve the chance to put it right? I can't work out if the board have been effectively ruthless, giving lots of time for the new manager to turn things around, or if they have been knee jerk on this. I'm interested to hear a fans persepctive.
 
View attachment 39398

I mean talk about trying to be back hand just because the midfield was so weak we kept breaking through

Dunno what he's on about west ham of old would have lost 4-1
Honestly, Klopp has tried to create this happy-go-lucky laid back persona and the media lapped it up, but he's actually as petulant as they come. Remember when he berated a BT Sport interviewer for his fixture pile-up like it was his fault? Ridiculous bloke.
 
Watched MOTD last night and it was the first time I saw the “talking points”. For me the 1st goal was good. Not West Ham’s fault Alison was doing the Hand Jive when he should have been at work!
The Creswell challenge, his foot bounced off the ball up to Henderson’s knee, looked bad when they froze it but he wasn’t in control and if it had been a red I couldn’t complain.

As for the Salah “foul”….. I could tell he was up to his tricks as soon as it happened - even before the replay confirmed it - when he simulates, he does a little signature jump in the air and then rolls on his side.

There's not much in it, but Rice steps right across him, impeding his progress and doesn't get the ball. Like it or not, that's a foul by modern standards.
 
Honestly, Klopp has tried to create this happy-go-lucky laid back persona and the media lapped it up, but he's actually as petulant as they come. Remember when he berated a BT Sport interviewer for his fixture pile-up like it was his fault? Ridiculous bloke.

Or he is just like every single other top class manager and they use many methods in the media to deflect - been going on for decades - all the way back to the 70’S with Shanks , Clough , Ferguson , Wenger Mourinho etc etc

They all have the same mentality - what do you expect them to say ?‍♂️
 
Or he is just like every single other top class manager and they use many methods in the media to deflect - been going on for decades - all the way back to the 70’S with Shanks , Clough , Ferguson , Wenger Mourinho etc etc

They all have the same mentality - what do you expect them to say ?‍♂️
I think slating the team that's just beaten you is a bit much to be honest. Saying they were like the 'old West Ham' is a bafflingly stupid comment. He's an intelligent guy, I'm sure he must realise that teams will play more pragmatically against a top side. Just makes him look stroppy and a sore loser. Don't mind him giving reasons for a defeat if there's actually any validity in the comment.
 
Or he is just like every single other top class manager and they use many methods in the media to deflect - been going on for decades - all the way back to the 70’S with Shanks , Clough , Ferguson , Wenger Mourinho etc etc

They all have the same mentality - what do you expect them to say ?‍♂️
He wants him like OGS...” well they tried their best, what can I say and do”
 
Top