The Footie Thread

[Swango1980]

No doubt Ronaldo in our front 3 would increase HIS goal scoring figures, but how much might it transfer into results due to the press potentially not working which I think everyone would agree is our biggest weapon.

Hasn't Ronaldo increased the goalscoring stat of your prime striker for this season - I would think absolutely.

However:-

Has Fernandes figures gone down?

Are results suffering?

Has your league position suffered?

Goals are one of the biggest metrics, but they arent the be all and end all.

All those questions have been answered by me, or at least explained from my point of view.

Having had a glance at a Bruno's stats, his scoring rate and assist rate in PL is about same as last season.

Our league position is suffering, but if you think we'd be second without Ronaldo then I think you are very very wrong. Liverpool and Chelsea have improved greatly.

We also relied on coming back from losing positions last year. That is never a sustainable approach to winning games. Great to have that ability in the bag, but if you need to nearly every gamez you'll eventually come unstuck.

Some seem convinced that because we are in a worse position than last year, it must be because of Ronaldo. It is a lovely conspiracy theory. I believe the exact opposite is almost true. If Utd DIDN'T have Ronaldo, they would be even worse off than they are now.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

All those questions have been answered by me, or at least explained from my point of view.

Having had a glance at a Bruno's stats, his scoring rate and assist rate in PL is about same as last season.

Our league position is suffering, but if you think we'd be second without Ronaldo then I think you are very very wrong. Liverpool and Chelsea have improved greatly.

We also relied on coming back from losing positions last year. That is never a sustainable approach to winning games. Great to have that ability in the bag, but if you need to nearly every gamez you'll eventually come unstuck.

Some seem convinced that because we are in a worse position than last year, it must be because of Ronaldo. It is a lovely conspiracy theory. I believe the exact opposite is almost true. If Utd DIDN'T have Ronaldo, they would be even worse off than they are now.

I disagree with that, though you're worth your opinion.

To my eyes, OGS has changed Yerniteds setup/tactics to accommodate Ronaldo but it's failing and the cracks in the team are bigger than ever.

I'm not blaming Ronaldo per se, but he is part of the problem imo. Its not his fault. It's upto the manager and coaching staff to try and find the tactics to get the best out of him and the team.

I'm not sure 352 will work long term with that squad though.

I'm logging off now, I need to be at work for 5 past De Gea......sorry 5 past 8 ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I disagree with that, though you're worth your opinion.

To my eyes, OGS has changed Yerniteds setup/tactics to accommodate Ronaldo but it's failing and the cracks in the team are bigger than ever.

I'm not blaming Ronaldo per se, but he is part of the problem imo. Its not his fault. It's upto the manager and coaching staff to try and find the tactics to get the best out of him and the team.

I'm not sure 352 will work long term with that squad though.

I'm logging off now, I need to be at work for 5 past De Gea......sorry 5 past 8 ?

Maybe it’s a case of keeping Ronaldo fit to improve Utd, Ronaldo’s goals along side an improving Utd team would contend with the top 3, just as Salah’s goals and your team performances have kept yous at the top.

Take both out of the 2 teams and they’d struggle to contend.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Painful second half this.

Can't blame it on the ref (our second half drop) But if he (ref) could do his job. It would have been a much easier job.

You were excellent first half, without making the chances your possession deserved, but second half you disappeared and withdrew. Good signs though and you are on a good run.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Is Luke Shaw still the best LB? ???

 

[pokerjoke]

Unfortunately men vs boys
Many don’t rate Fred and at times I’m one of them,but his work rate is phenomenal.
Doing his own,Fernandes and Greenwood’s running.
Once again a shocking performance.
Embarrassing and quite unbelievable how good players have turned into scared rabbits caught in headlights.

 

[clubchamp98]

What is Shaw doing there ?
Just put it out for a corner.
De Gea caught out but it’s Shaws fault imo.

 

[pokerjoke]

Is Luke Shaw still the best LB? ???

Really don’t know what’s happened to him Stu
Another Shaw/ Maguire shocker

 

[Swango1980]

At least they have Keane in the studio this week. Never fear, only 2 at half time. Ole can now give his inspirational team talk, United can win this 5-2.......

 

[Deleted member 23270]

Don't worry all you yernited fans, the prodigal son will score in the 90+3 and 90+6 minutes to save your bacon ?

 

[Piece]

Is Luke Shaw still the best LB? ???

Haha. I was about to post the same thing ?

 

[chrisd]

At least they have Keane in the studio this week. Never fear, only 2 at half time. Ole can now give his inspirational team talk, United can win this 5-2.......

You really must stop smoking that funny smelling stuff ??

 

[Billysboots]

Just discussing the forthcoming United managerial vacancy with a mate and he reminded me that Steve Bruce is available.

I wonder if he can still play centre half…….

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Luke Shaw is flat out, takes a few minutes out, resumes playing. 5 or so minutes later he goes off as he is no feeling right. How the heck was he allowed to keep playing after the initial head incident? There is even a protocol that allows a substitute to be used. You wonder what football has learned is this area?

Back to the game, it's as one sided as the liverpool game, just without the ruthless streak.

 

[BrianM]

What is Shaw doing there ?
Just put it out for a corner.
De Gea caught out but it’s Shaws fault imo.

The final part of the jigsaw so to speak was poor on Shaw and De Gea’s part but in the whole build up there was no urgency or pressing by any united player, that’s the real problem in my opinion.

 

[Billysboots]

Lovely reception for Van de Beek. Rarely have I ever had the level of sympathy for a footballer that I have for that lad. I cannot believe that, even if Solskjaer didn’t want him, he hasn’t been given a fair crack of the whip. He can’t possibly do any worse that the man he’s replaced.

 

[Billysboots]

The final part of the jigsaw so to speak was poor on Shaw and De Gea’s part but in the whole build up there was no urgency or pressing by any united player, that’s the real problem in my opinion.

Not sure too much blame can be attached to de Gea for City’s second. The absence of pressing aside, that’s Shaw’s error.

 

[Swango1980]

Luke Shaw is flat out, takes a few minutes out, resumes playing. 5 or so minutes later he goes off as he is no feeling right. How the heck was he allowed to keep playing after the initial head incident? There is even a protocol that allows a substitute to be used. You wonder what football has learned is this area?

Back to the game, it's as one sided as the liverpool game, just without the ruthless streak.

Perhaps the Manchester Utd medical staff are as inept as the coaching staff.

Hopefully they'll sack Ole now.

 

[Billysboots]

Shocking. Yet again. City have been in complete control from the very first minute. We have not laid a glove on them.

Just how long are the board prepared to put up with this slide? Absolute dross.

 

[pokerjoke]

Lovely reception for Van de Beek. Rarely have I ever had the level of sympathy for a footballer that I have for that lad. I cannot believe that, even if Solskjaer didn’t want him, he hasn’t been given a fair crack of the whip. He can’t possibly do any worse that the man he’s replaced.

Agreed
Lucky they didn’t score from his first pass of the game though.
Time to give him a run.
Sancho just out of his depth,I feel he’s just afraid to try anything attacking for the fear of failure.