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1. What a great tash from Alisson

2. So much better without Carragher commentating

3. How much longer do Arsenal give Arteta
 
hairball_89 said:
4. 4 strikers in the squad. 3 with no form. Which of the four is on the bench?

5. Which of the above 4 changes the game?!
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Is that Martinelli ? Always impressed by him

Are Smith Rowe and Saka injured ?
 
fundy said:
yes (but arteta not prepared to give him game time since come back from injury), yes and yes
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He has always looked dangerous when I have seen him - surely you don’t rely this much on two young kids ? Don’t think the GK has been threatened once
 
Liverpoolphil said:
He has always looked dangerous when I have seen him - surely you don’t rely this much on two young kids ? Don’t think the GK has been threatened once
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yep we do, and they only got picked because of injuries

the gameplan doesnt fit the players but the constant blame is on the players, he has to find a plan B for the players he has, not as if we have a few hundred million to go and get what he needs in the summer

another window to clear out yet more deadwood and well still have plenty left and saying the same next year no doubt
 
If Liverpool had VVD and Jota all season the table would be a whole lot different.

Arsenal are stuck in no mans land. Big club but no money and can't afford the players they need to progress. Just a cycle of excuses and mediocrity. Arteta's a good manager but deserves better than having to play kids every game because the older players won't listen. Auba sums the club up. A 31 year old baby with the haircut of a rapper. Totally finished and grabbing 350k a week for the next 3 years :ROFLMAO:
 
4LEX said:
If Liverpool had VVD and Jota all season the table would be a whole lot different.

Arsenal are stuck in no mans land. Big club but no money and can't afford the players they need to progress. Just a cycle of excuses and mediocrity. Arteta's a good manager but deserves better than having to play kids every game because the older players won't listen. Auba sums the club up. A 31 year old baby with the haircut of a rapper. Totally finished and grabbing 350k a week for the next 3 years :ROFLMAO:
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on what basis is Arteta a good manager, especially if older players wont listen?

he may turn into one but totally and utterly unproven as yet and appears to have plan A and no plan B
 
fundy said:
on what basis is Arteta a good manager, especially if older players wont listen?

he may turn into one but totally and utterly unproven as yet and appears to have plan A and no plan B
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Arsenal were a bloated mess when he took over. Half the squad was deadwood on ridiculous wages from the shocking legacy Wenger left the club. Emery was a poor stop gap but couldn't sell or buy the players he wanted so was always up against it.

Arteta has actually managed to offload a few players but the key things are he has a style (when he's got his best side out) and he's already won a trophy. He's shown he can improve young players and these are the future of the club. The only bad mistake he's made was to sign Willian on big wages. Arsenal aren't going to get a world class manager and spend £400m to win trophies, the only way they'll ever become a major force is to give him time, continue to offload the deadwood and gradually bring in a few key players each year. Obvously it might not work but as a club they have no other option.

Arsenal have a handful of toxic players in the squad still, he's going to need to cull the likes of Xhaka, Pepe, Lacazzete and Auba this summer. Easier said than done due to the silly wages and lack of value.
 
4LEX said:
Arsenal were a bloated mess when he took over. Half the squad was deadwood on ridiculous wages from the shocking legacy Wenger left the club. Emery was a poor stop gap but couldn't sell or buy the players he wanted so was always up against it.

Arteta has actually managed to offload a few players but the key things are he has a style (when he's got his best side out) and he's already won a trophy. He's shown he can improve young players and these are the future of the club. The only bad mistake he's made was to sign Willian on big wages. Arsenal aren't going to get a world class manager and spend £400m to win trophies, the only way they'll ever become a major force is to give him time, continue to offload the deadwood and gradually bring in a few key players each year. Obvously it might not work but as a club they have no other option.

Arsenal have a handful of toxic players in the squad still, he's going to need to cull the likes of Xhaka, Pepe, Lacazzete and Auba this summer. Easier said than done due to the silly wages and lack of value.
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Wouldnt disagree with any of that apart from the bit that apart from the fact theres still nothing to say that Arteta is a good manager, just a half decent prospect on current evidence, as Ive said for years the issue at Arsenal is far bigger than the manager and sadly expect he will be another casualty rather than the solution
 
4LEX said:
Arsenal were a bloated mess when he took over. Half the squad was deadwood on ridiculous wages from the shocking legacy Wenger left the club. Emery was a poor stop gap but couldn't sell or buy the players he wanted so was always up against it.

Arteta has actually managed to offload a few players but the key things are he has a style (when he's got his best side out) and he's already won a trophy. He's shown he can improve young players and these are the future of the club. The only bad mistake he's made was to sign Willian on big wages. Arsenal aren't going to get a world class manager and spend £400m to win trophies, the only way they'll ever become a major force is to give him time, continue to offload the deadwood and gradually bring in a few key players each year. Obvously it might not work but as a club they have no other option.

Arsenal have a handful of toxic players in the squad still, he's going to need to cull the likes of Xhaka, Pepe, Lacazzete and Auba this summer. Easier said than done due to the silly wages and lack of value.
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How many clubs nowadays give carte blanche to managers to do their own buying and selling? Most have recruitment teams that far exceed those of the one off scouts that used to go to matches. How many recruitment teams propose, and even buy, players that aren't worthy of the shirt at the bigger clubs?

There was a stats exercise carried out a few years back that showed at least one third of all players bought don't live up to the expectations placed on them.

Is Wenger and Arteta solely responsible for the failings of those bought in? I very much doubt it.
 
Now 4pts clear of 3rd and 9pts clear of 4th with a superior goal difference, happy days.
Luke Shaw was superb yet again.
Onwards and .................... well, onwards.
 
Slime said:
Now 4pts clear of 3rd and 9pts clear of 4th with a superior goal difference, happy days.
Luke Shaw was superb yet again.
Onwards and .................... well, onwards.
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A bit too much huff and puff, especially during the first half, but not finishing top four would be a disaster from where United are now. To think I didn’t give them a prayer after the first two months of this season, too.

Grinding results out when not playing well is the mark of a decent side, and United are in reasonable shape now. Still need a top quality centre half, 20-a-season striker and a right sided midfielder, but get two of those three in the summer and I’ll look forward to next season.
 
Hobbit said:
How many clubs nowadays give carte blanche to managers to do their own buying and selling? Most have recruitment teams that far exceed those of the one off scouts that used to go to matches. How many recruitment teams propose, and even buy, players that aren't worthy of the shirt at the bigger clubs?

There was a stats exercise carried out a few years back that showed at least one third of all players bought don't live up to the expectations placed on them.

Is Wenger and Arteta solely responsible for the failings of those bought in? I very much doubt it.
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No not at all at Arsenal, Edu currently has a big say and others before, its actually in that area Arsenals failings have been the biggest for the last 10ish years
 
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