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I can’t understand the clamour for Ronaldo. Wonderful player, still fit as a flea, but United have set their stall out - they are building for the future and, whilst not doubting Ronaldo might bang in 20+ goals, that is by no means guaranteed.

Whilst not disputing his record in Spain and Italy, the Premier League is fast and physical - perhaps more so that when he last graced Old Trafford. He’s older, more likely to pick up minor muscle injuries which will take time to heal, and my view is the club should continue to build for the future, not live in the past.

I was at the game when Ronaldo made his first substitute’s appearance - against Bolton, I think it was - and what I saw that day had me excited for the years ahead. I’d rather have that feeling than a few months where I can go all misty eyed thinking of how things used to be.

If United want a striker, and I think they desperately need a clinical finisher, then there are younger options out there. Erling Haaland would be top of my list.
 
I can’t understand the clamour for Ronaldo. Wonderful player, still fit as a flea, but United have set their stall out - they are building for the future and, whilst not doubting Ronaldo might bang in 20+ goals, that is by no means guaranteed.

Whilst not disputing his record in Spain and Italy, the Premier League is fast and physical - perhaps more so that when he last graced Old Trafford. He’s older, more likely to pick up minor muscle injuries which will take time to heal, and my view is the club should continue to build for the future, not live in the past.

I was at the game when Ronaldo made his first substitute’s appearance - against Bolton, I think it was - and what I saw that day had me excited for the years ahead. I’d rather have that feeling than a few months where I can go all misty eyed thinking of how things used to be.

If United want a striker, and I think they desperately need a clinical finisher, then there are younger options out there. Erling Haaland would be top of my list.
Seems symptomatic of United these days, I'm not sure if they have a clear blueprint of what they're doing. They appear to be building for the future, but they were happy to bring in Zlatan, Ighalo and Cavani in recent years. Back when they signed Zlatan I thought he was too old to make the step from an inferior league to the Prem, and I was wrong as he did very well - so there's no way I'd say the same thing about Ronaldo and risk being proved wrong again! The clever thing that Ronaldo has done is completely change his game now from the swashbuckling inverted winger to out-and-out targetman pretty much. He's phenomenal in the air, still strong and quick so he can do as well as any striker even at his age - it's just less running for him really. Probably extended his career three years by doing that. There's no doubt in my mind he'd clear 20 goals if he came, but obviously it wouldn't be long term. Has a year maybe two left in him at the most.

I can't see Haaland going to United, he could have his pick of any club in the world. More likely to go for City or someone else who's guaranteed trophies.
 
Seems symptomatic of United these days, I'm not sure if they have a clear blueprint of what they're doing. They appear to be building for the future, but they were happy to bring in Zlatan, Ighalo and Cavani in recent years. Back when they signed Zlatan I thought he was too old to make the step from an inferior league to the Prem, and I was wrong as he did very well - so there's no way I'd say the same thing about Ronaldo and risk being proved wrong again! The clever thing that Ronaldo has done is completely change his game now from the swashbuckling inverted winger to out-and-out targetman pretty much. He's phenomenal in the air, still strong and quick so he can do as well as any striker even at his age - it's just less running for him really. Probably extended his career three years by doing that. There's no doubt in my mind he'd clear 20 goals if he came, but obviously it wouldn't be long term. Has a year maybe two left in him at the most.

I can't see Haaland going to United, he could have his pick of any club in the world. More likely to go for City or someone else who's guaranteed trophies.

I’m hoping the long overdue appointments of a Technical Director and Director of Football will bring a much needed end to the scattergun transfer policy we have seen for almost ten years.

I’ve said it many times - the failure to offload deadwood on inflated wages says as much about the management of transfers as the repeated failure to bring identified players in. Then you have the marquee signings, huge financial outlay on players with no clue how they’ll be employed. Di Maria was a classic example - a breathtaking signing, but never in a month of Sundays a LVG player. That one signing summed up a chaotic transfer policy.

I like what Solskjaer is doing at the club. And I like that the club appear to be giving him time. But for the time invested in him to bear fruit in the long term, short term stop gap signings are not the way to go, regardless of how good they are. Zlatan did exceptionally well, but we were totally one dimensional whilst he was there. Cavani? I love the guy, but nobody will convince me he was anything other than a panic buy, and he’s already showing that age is catching up with him, with a couple of niggling injuries.

Ronaldo is a legend, and would doubtless do a job. But in doing that job for one season, maybe two, his presence prevents any long term building. For that reason I’d rather the club looked elsewhere.
 
Utds problem is not a striker. Utds problem having a manager who is not getting 100% out of the current players. Ronaldo going back to Utd is not the answer to take Utd to the next level.
 
Tash, I think a striker is one issue of three or four.

I will say until my last breath that, capable as Rashford is of some remarkable things, he misses far too many routine chances. Martial is a better finisher but very streaky in terms of confidence and performance. And Greenwood is one for the future. They need a 20 goals a season striker.

Add to that a commanding centre half with pace, and a right sided midfielder, and I don’t think we’re far off being serious challengers again.
 
Tash, I think a striker is one issue of three or four.

I will say until my last breath that, capable as Rashford is of some remarkable things, he misses far too many routine chances. Martial is a better finisher but very streaky in terms of confidence and performance. And Greenwood is one for the future. They need a 20 goals a season striker.

Add to that a commanding centre half with pace, and a right sided midfielder, and I don’t think we’re far off being serious challengers again.
Similar to Liverpool imo.
Our strikers do score goals but they miss some chances.
But lots of teams play now with a false 9.
But I would prefer a proper CF who knows how to finish.
Quite a rare player though.
Like you I would like Harland but would he fit Liverpool.
 
Tash, I think a striker is one issue of three or four.

I will say until my last breath that, capable as Rashford is of some remarkable things, he misses far too many routine chances. Martial is a better finisher but very streaky in terms of confidence and performance. And Greenwood is one for the future. They need a 20 goals a season striker.

Add to that a commanding centre half with pace, and a right sided midfielder, and I don’t think we’re far off being serious challengers again.
When you mentioned Rashford you could of inserted Sterling in your description. I remember when Pep came in and he told sterling you are picking the ball up in the wrong places. He said I want you here. Sterling said “ then what”. Peps reply do what you do naturally. In essence pep was coaching Sterling, telling him where to be. Not just for him but for the team. I think that’s where OGS is not getting 100% out of his team.
 
When you mentioned Rashford you could of inserted Sterling in your description. I remember when Pep came in and he told sterling you are picking the ball up in the wrong places. He said I want you here. Sterling said “ then what”. Peps reply do what you do naturally. In essence pep was coaching Sterling, telling him where to be. Not just for him but for the team. I think that’s where OGS is not getting 100% out of his team.
Was this a polite way of saying, "You can't shoot to save your life, try and make sure when you get the ball you're only 3 yards out so you can't miss."
 
When you mentioned Rashford you could of inserted Sterling in your description. I remember when Pep came in and he told sterling you are picking the ball up in the wrong places. He said I want you here. Sterling said “ then what”. Peps reply do what you do naturally. In essence pep was coaching Sterling, telling him where to be. Not just for him but for the team. I think that’s where OGS is not getting 100% out of his team.

Indeed, Sterling always seems to have stinkers when he plays against us ?.

Solskjaer isn’t doing too badly. Luke Shaw has come on in leaps and bounds, and Fred has become a reliable performer. I am less than convinced elsewhere though. Fernandes aside we lack the creativity to unlock packed defences - we’re great on the counter, but when sides sit deep we seem to revert to a slow, laboured approach.

And up front is frustrating. It’s rare I ever see Rashford make a run across his defender to the near post, seeming to prefer to hang back at the far post and wait for a defensive mistake. And don’t start me on his conversion rate, especially one on ones, which I suspect makes for grim reading. I find myself shouting at the TV far too often when I watch him.
 
Was this a polite way of saying, "You can't shoot to save your life, try and make sure when you get the ball you're only 3 yards out so you can't miss."
My true feelings towards Sterling may well lead to an infraction. bringing Spurs/ Kane into it. Can you remember when Kane never passed to Sterling V Croatia. It was the wrong decision coz we didn’t score but I can totally understand why Kane never passed. Sterling is the most frustrating player in City’s starting 11. He misses sitters and then scores a worldly. He is clever enough to understand Peps system. But at times sweet mother and Mary. Looking at most teams in the prem that have had a
“ disappointing” season. Even though Pep has world class players at City, I cannot help but think that if he was at Spurs, arsenal, Utd. He would get more out of the players..
That aside, what went off with a aubameyang at arsenal, was he stuck in traffi as has been reported.
 
Indeed, Sterling always seems to have stinkers when he plays against us ?.

Solskjaer isn’t doing too badly. Luke Shaw has come on in leaps and bounds, and Fred has become a reliable performer. I am less than convinced elsewhere though. Fernandes aside we lack the creativity to unlock packed defences - we’re great on the counter, but when sides sit deep we seem to revert to a slow, laboured approach.

And up front is frustrating. It’s rare I ever see Rashford make a run across his defender to the near post, seeming to prefer to hang back at the far post and wait for a defensive mistake. And don’t start me on his conversion rate, especially one on ones, which I suspect makes for grim reading. I find myself shouting at the TV far too often when I watch him.

Ave said this before, I saw Luke Shaw play for the Saints against City and he was immense. All that was up with him was he wanted to be loved. Mouriniho is not a lover.
 
I wish I was that confident. We are talking about one of the best strikers in the world here.

I guess the problem is going to be the market now. How many clubs at the moment can afford a £100 million plus player and, of those, is Kane as fashionable a name as Haaland or Mbappe at the moment when it comes to who they would spend that big money on. I am not sure which clubs I can see in the current climate being willing to offer any where near what Spurs feel he is worth.
 
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