The Footie Thread

[Deleted member 16999]

Can we have an asterisk on our shirts like Liverpool ?

That aside I thought it was a close game at 2-1. I would be disappointed with Pickford not keeping out the 3rd which should of kept Everton in it.

To be fair mate, I’d play Olsen, but the 3rd was a quality goal and the play deserved it, sometimes you’ve just got to sit back and accept the other team is better.

 

[Tashyboy]

To be fair mate, I’d play Olsen, but the 3rd was a quality goal and the play deserved it, sometimes you’ve just got to sit back and accept the other team is better.

I thought Everton were tough to break down, first 20 mins I thought we were scrappy. Get a goal knowing ones not enough, next thing it’s 1-1. Mahrez did exactly what he was bought for. Try to break down packed defences.
One other thing, you’re centre half that went off, flippin eck he is a Unit.

 

[Slime]

Meanwhile on another planet Ole is playing 2 DM's against West Brom. Utd will be sponsored by Arriva next year they've parked that many buses

With all those buses I'm surprised that they've scored more goals than anyone else in the league.
How defensive is that?

 

[Papas1982]

With all those buses I'm surprised that they've scored more goals than anyone else in the league.
How defensive is that?

One freak result against Saints makes a mockery of that state comment.

If anttji g I'd have used the fact that utds defence is so poor that they can't have parked the bus....

 

[Kellfire]

With all those buses I'm surprised that they've scored more goals than anyone else in the league.
How defensive is that?

There’s also the fact that we didn’t play two defensive midfielders. Why do people keep saying McTominay is defensive when he’s clearly box to box and is scoring some vital goals because of it? Seems to be because Sky tell them he’s defensive.

I won’t even say Fred is either, he’s a deep lying playmaker. He sure as hell can’t tackle so he’s not very defensive!

 

[Yorkhacker]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56090440

Interesting piece. Not sure many Arsenal or Chelsea fans would agree

 

[Orikoru]

When city win the league, will it be because they’re the best team or because it’s a weak league?

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Well, it's both. They've managed to find some consistency when nobody else has.

 

[Tashyboy]

Well, it's both. They've managed to find some consistency when nobody else has.

Is that not becoming the norm. From what I can see over the last 10 seasons there has only been 3 title races that could be said as close.

 

[Orikoru]

Is that not becoming the norm. From what I can see over the last 10 seasons there has only been 3 title races that could be said as close.

I think the other teams have all been as bad as they've ever been if not worse though, in terms of consistency. Everyone was handing each other the lead until City put a good run of wins together.

Here are the 1st and 2nd place points total after week 24 for the last ten seasons:

20/21 - 56 - 46
19/20 - 70 - 51
18/19 - 61 - 56
17/18 - 65 - 53
16/17 - 59 - 50
15/16 - 50 - 47
14/15 - 56 - 49
13/14 - 55 - 53
12/13 - 59 - 52
11/12 - 60 - 58

So it's the joint third lowest title to be leading, but the lowest total to be in 2nd place, so definitely an argument to say it's the worst season in terms of consistency of the challengers. I checked another 5 seasons and there still wasn't a lower second place total.

 

[Tashyboy]

I think the other teams have all been as bad as they've ever been if not worse though, in terms of consistency. Everyone was handing each other the lead until City put a good run of wins together.

Here are the 1st and 2nd place points total after week 24 for the last ten seasons:

20/21 - 56 - 46
19/20 - 70 - 51
18/19 - 61 - 56
17/18 - 65 - 53
16/17 - 59 - 50
15/16 - 50 - 47
14/15 - 56 - 49
13/14 - 55 - 53
12/13 - 59 - 52
11/12 - 60 - 58

So it's the joint third lowest title to be leading, but the lowest total to be in 2nd place, so definitely an argument to say it's the worst season in terms of consistency of the challengers. I checked another 5 seasons and there still wasn't a lower second place total.

One thing I found interesting re comments about City, was that Pep has tightened up the defence but at the same Time City are not as “ Flamboyant “, in a sense they don’t create as many chances. They probably don’t but they are still missing just as many.
Prem league level you can get away with it, sometimes. At top level, champs league nope.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

One thing I found interesting re comments about City, was that Pep has tightened up the defence but at the same Time City are not as “ Flamboyant “, in a sense they don’t create as many chances. They probably don’t but they are still missing just as many.
Prem league level you can get away with it, sometimes. At top level, champs league nope.

What really annoys me about city and pep is the level of rotation it's stupid

Stones has a real chance of becoming a really good centre back and building a partnership with Diaz .. which could win them the champs league

But if you seperate them every other game how will they build?

 

[Tashyboy]

What really annoys me about city and pep is the level of rotation it's stupid

Stones has a real chance of becoming a really good centre back and building a partnership with Diaz .. which could win them the champs league

But if you seperate them every other game how will they build?

But his/ peps system is working and working well. He somehow has to keep players fresh and he seems to be doing it. Re Stones he has played himself into a new contract. Him and Dias have been massive, but Laporte needs game time, that’s before Ake is available as well. What’s been very surprising is the run that City have been on with both KDB and Aguero missing.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The talk again on the old phones ins was about the greatest Prem side

It seems to be the narrative now that each season that team becomes the greatest

Last year it was Liverpool
Year before City etc etc

I still think it’s very hard to choose between City 18/19 , Arsenal invincibles , UTD 99 , Liverpool 19/20 or Chelsea 04/05

Because there is no chance that the current team can be claimed that

 

[Kellfire]

The talk again on the old phones ins was about the greatest Prem side

It seems to be the narrative now that each season that team becomes the greatest

Last year it was Liverpool
Year before City etc etc

I still think it’s very hard to choose between City 18/19 , Arsenal invincibles , UTD 99 , Liverpool 19/20 or Chelsea 04/05

Because there is no chance that the current team can be claimed that

United 99 easily. Won the treble and lost fewer games all season than Arsenal did in their “invincible” season.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

United 99 easily. Won the treble and lost fewer games all season than Arsenal did in their “invincible” season.

Arsenal lost “Zero” Premier League ?‍ How can lose less

It best “Premier League” team - so just Premier League

 

[Kellfire]

Arsenal lost “Zero” Premier League ?‍ How can lose less

It best “Premier League” team - so just Premier League

It’s ridiculous to suggest the other games being played didn’t have an impact. Neither team only played Premier League games in the respective seasons and this meant rotating players. Arsenal didn’t play in any finals the year they went unbeaten in the league and didn’t even get to the semis of the Champions League. We had three “finals” in a very short time when you consider we had to win on the final day of the season and still won the lot.

But I’m not surprised you’re narrowing the parameters so you don’t have to say Man Utd and can bring Liverpool last year into the conversation.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Arsenal lost “Zero” Premier League ?‍ How can lose less

It best “Premier League” team - so just Premier League

The Arsenal one is a bit like a pro getting a 59 on a par 69 course and going in the record books. All very good but is it better than a 60 on a par 72? Arsenal drew quite a few games that year, the pressure of not losing took over. It is a great stat but it doesn't make the team the best.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

It's more impressive that Manchester United won the league and the other 2 at once

Arsenal unbeaten is impressive but they didn't win anything else that year

 

[Papas1982]

I’d say the “greatest feat” is prabably is the 99 team. But I wouldn’t say their the best.

Id fancy the Chelsea team or the Liverpool/city teams of last few seasons to be able to beat them of a series of games.

 

[Kellfire]

I’d say the “greatest feat” is prabably is the 99 team. But I wouldn’t say their the best.

Id fancy the Chelsea team or the Liverpool/city teams of last few seasons to be able to beat them of a series of games.

Of course they would. Just as our team right now would beat the 1968 team with Best, Charlton and Law without breaking a sweat.