The Footie Thread

[clubchamp98]

Fab left his legs there to initiate the contact, pen all day for me.

3 times, at least our FB's let them come in on the inside of them, they need to learn to show them down the line.

There very good players though and you can’t stop them all the time.
But City don’t have a CF so CBS have nobody to mark and should cover the fullbacks better.
Plenty of red shirts in the box.
First contact is Fabs standing foot he’s on his way down then before the stupid dangled leg.
Yes it’s a pen. But he’s looking for it imo.

 

[hairball_89]

There very good players though and you can’t stop them all the time.
But City don’t have a CF so CBS have nobody to mark and should cover the fullbacks better.
Plenty of red shirts in the box.
First contact is Fabs standing foot he’s on his way down then before the stupid dangled leg.
Yes it’s a pen. But he’s looking for it imo.

Agreed. def a pen. was he looking for it? Absolutely. and all good attackers look for pens. at every opportunity. Why wouldn't you?

re: our FBs letting their wide players cut inside, how many times have we seen commentary/pundits say "he should have stopped Mane/Salah coming inside there and sent him down the line"? Sometimes they're just too good. And Man City players are really bloody good at football!

 

[Liverbirdie]

Agreed. def a pen. was he looking for it? Absolutely. and all good attackers look for pens. at every opportunity. Why wouldn't you?

re: our FBs letting their wide players cut inside, how many times have we seen commentary/pundits say "he should have stopped Mane/Salah coming inside there and sent him down the line"? Sometimes they're just too good. And Man City players are really bloody good at football!

Run at the correct angle, even if he beats you down the side, most times it will only be a cross and not a shot.

 

[Tashyboy]

There very good players though and you can’t stop them all the time.
But City don’t have a CF so CBS have nobody to mark and should cover the fullbacks better.
Plenty of red shirts in the box.
First contact is Fabs standing foot he’s on his way down then before the stupid dangled leg.
Yes it’s a pen. But he’s looking for it imo.

My lad called it quite well.The 2 previous times Sterling was shown the byline, his weaker foot. Both times he had it took off him. This time he does his massively exaggerated step over, cuts in and as soon as there’s contact he is going down.
Re Liverpool something has to change. Is the lad from Preston fit to play. If he drops in does Henderson or Fab drop in the middle. ? my worry for Liverpool is they are getting to the business end of the season and champs league and they can ill afford to have any injuries to Henderson or fab playing every game.

 

[clubchamp98]

My lad called it quite well.The 2 previous times Sterling was shown the byline, his weaker foot. Both times he had it took off him. This time he does his massively exaggerated step over, cuts in and as soon as there’s contact he is going down.
Re Liverpool something has to change. Is the lad from Preston fit to play. If he drops in does Henderson or Fab drop in the middle. ? my worry for Liverpool is they are getting to the business end of the season and champs league and they can ill afford to have any injuries to Henderson or fab playing every game.

Yes agree with your lad .
But Sterling and Foden are quality players and you can’t stop them all the time.
The best FB in the world won’t stop them every time .
It’s why they are playing for City.

We have young CBS but we don’t play them when we should.
It may weaken the defence ( debatable) but it would strengthen the midfield imo.
Which would protect the defence better, and balance the team a bit more.

 

[Tashyboy]

Yes agree with your lad .
But Sterling and Foden are quality players and you can’t stop them all the time.
The best FB in the world won’t stop them every time .
It’s why they are playing for City.

We have young CBS but we don’t play them when we should.
It may weaken the defence ( debatable) but it would strengthen the midfield imo.
Which would protect the defence better, and balance the team a bit more.

It looks like dropping fab and Henderson to Centre half has altered the balance of the team to much. ?

 

[Orikoru]

Was pointless signing the two defenders if they're not deemed good enough to start. I imagine he just didn't want to chuck them in for a daunting debut against Man City, and we'll start to see them phased in from now on. Not really stellar names coming in from the Championship and a side rock bottom of the German league though - they do reek a little bit of panic buys.

 

[Slime]

Was pointless signing the two defenders if they're not deemed good enough to start. I imagine he just didn't want to chuck them in for a daunting debut against Man City, and we'll start to see them phased in from now on. Not really stellar names coming in from the Championship and a side rock bottom of the German league though - they do reek a little bit of panic buys.

Can Klopp really afford, timewise, to phase them in?
I'd have thought not.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Can Klopp really afford, timewise, to phase them in?
I'd have thought not.

Klopp won’t change his methods for introducing new players - too early and you could ruin the player and despite all the doom and gloom and the team being written off it’s not all as bad as people make out.

 

[Orikoru]

Can Klopp really afford, timewise, to phase them in?
I'd have thought not.

Has all in the time in the world now, the league is finished.

 

[clubchamp98]

It looks like dropping fab and Henderson to Centre half has altered the balance of the team to much. ?

Yes I think so as well .
Maybe one with one of the young lads.
But we havnt only lost two CB we have lost the heart of the midfield by moving them back.
Any team will struggle doing that but it’s cost us going forward as well.
We are slow and just can’t break teams down who sit back.
Not the City game really it’s been like that for a while.

 

[hairball_89]

Yes I think so as well .
Maybe one with one of the young lads.
But we havnt only lost two CB we have lost the heart of the midfield by moving them back.
Any team will struggle doing that but it’s cost us going forward as well.
We are slow and just can’t break teams down who sit back.
Not the City game really it’s been like that for a while.

Absolutely. Add in that Ox and Naby can't be relied on at all and the midfield numbers are super low so Gini has played what feels like every minute and we're relying on Milner much more than probably planned!

The perfect storm for the team being very poor!

 

[Tashyboy]

Yes I think so as well .
Maybe one with one of the young lads.
But we havnt only lost two CB we have lost the heart of the midfield by moving them back.
Any team will struggle doing that but it’s cost us going forward as well.
We are slow and just can’t break teams down who sit back.
Not the City game really it’s been like that for a while.

Sat having a natter with me lad. Re Henderson, he was Player of the year last season. That’s how pivotal he was to the team. He is the first I would drop back into the middle. Re Ori saying about would you drop one of the 2 centre half’s in against City, or both. I understand yup it’s City, but Leicester of Everton are not much easier. And again, Klopp/ Liverpool knew the fixture list was tough for a month before they purchased them.
That aside, although the result was not the best, re others around them drawing. It only means they lost a point on Leicester and Utd. For me there still in it, but they have to change it.
Finally, whoever the numpties are shouting for Klopp to go. It’s not his fault Liverpool have not splashed out.

 

[clubchamp98]

Absolutely. Add in that Ox and Naby can't be relied on at all and the midfield numbers are super low so Gini has played what feels like every minute and we're relying on Milner much more than probably planned!

The perfect storm for the team being very poor!

Yes but we can all see that but we still didn’t go and get a CB that could be just put in place.
If the PL ,European,world club champions can’t recruit a CB something is wrong.
My honest opinion is Klopp knows we won’t do anything this season and he is already planning his team for next season.
We were well in the game until the keepers errors( these things happen) and City were no great shakes until their second goal.
Wasn’t just yesterday we have been poor for a while.
Let’s just hope the owners will finance Klopp targets, as we have to many very ordinary players in the squad.

 

[Tashyboy]

Yes but we can all see that but we still didn’t go and get a CB that could be just put in place.
If the PL ,European,world club champions can’t recruit a CB something is wrong.
My honest opinion is Klopp knows we won’t do anything this season and he is already planning his team for next season.
We were well in the game until the keepers errors( these things happen) and City were no great shakes until their second goal.
Wasn’t just yesterday we have been poor for a while.
Let’s just hope the owners will finance Klopp targets, as we have to many very ordinary players in the squad.

Thinking about what you have said, there was a spell where City were rammel about 18 months ago. There were suggestions that Pep was trying to make a point how weak he was in certain areas by his team selections. Always a lot easier when you have a sugar daddy. I can understand Klopp looking at next year. But Liverpool will look far more attractive being in the champs league.

 

[clubchamp98]

Sat having a natter with me lad. Re Henderson, he was Player of the year last season. That’s how pivotal he was to the team. He is the first I would drop back into the middle. Re Ori saying about would you drop one of the 2 centre half’s in against City, or both. I understand yup it’s City, but Leicester of Everton are not much easier. And again, Klopp/ Liverpool knew the fixture list was tough for a month before they purchased them.
That aside, although the result was not the best, re others around them drawing. It only means they lost a point on Leicester and Utd. For me there still in it, but they have to change it.
Finally, whoever the numpties are shouting for Klopp to go. It’s not his fault Liverpool have not splashed out.

See your point .
But against City it’s not essential to have a CB as they play without a CF.
It’s your midfield that did the damage small mobile players. Pace is key and as good as they are Fab and Hendo are not as fast .
Against Vardy and Calvert Lewin we will need a more robust CB.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yes but we can all see that but we still didn’t go and get a CB that could be just put in place.
If the PL ,European,world club champions can’t recruit a CB something is wrong.
My honest opinion is Klopp knows we won’t do anything this season and he is already planning his team for next season.
We were well in the game until the keepers errors( these things happen) and City were no great shakes until their second goal.
Wasn’t just yesterday we have been poor for a while.
Let’s just hope the owners will finance Klopp targets, as we have to many very ordinary players in the squad.

I think you best be prepared that there won’t be much money flying around in the summer - the club will stand to lose around £100mil because of the pandemic and that’s going to affect the transfer budget and indeed most clubs transfer budgets unless clubs want to put debt on etc

 

[clubchamp98]

Thinking about what you have said, there was a spell where City were rammel about 18 months ago. There were suggestions that Pep was trying to make a point how weak he was in certain areas by his team selections. Always a lot easier when you have a sugar daddy. I can understand Klopp looking at next year. But Liverpool will look far more attractive being in the champs league.

Tbh I dread to think what some CL teams will do to us if we don’t sort this out.
By moving your midfield into the back we have a weak back four.
A weaker midfield to protect that back four and provide for the strikers.
I would play one of the young lads and put the midfield back to full strength.
At least 2/3 rds of the team will be full strength.
It can’t be any worse than the last couple of weeks.
I would put Milner as a sweeper behind one of the young CBs.
Fab in front in holding role and Hendo back in middle.
But who would be a manager.!!

 

[clubchamp98]

I think you best be prepared that there won’t be much money flying around in the summer - the club will stand to lose around £100mil because of the pandemic and that’s going to affect the transfer budget and indeed most clubs transfer budgets unless clubs want to put debt on etc

Not buying a CB of note could cost us the CL spot next season .
That will be a shock to the finances.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not buying a CB of note could cost us the CL spot next season .
That will be a shock to the finances.

They have brought in two CB’s ?