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The Footie Thread

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fundy said:
Thought Everton were subdued, and quite ordinary. Plenty good enough to beat us still :(
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I thought on the 2nd half a draw would of been a fair result, Arsenal didn’t seem to want to be there until the equaliser.
 
Not that I want him to but Arteta has to go surely? When Brighton beat Sheffield tomorrow, Arsenal will drop to 16th. That is unheard of.
 
Orikoru said:
Not that I want him to but Arteta has to go surely? When Brighton beat Sheffield tomorrow, Arsenal will drop to 16th. That is unheard of.
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why? whats the point in sacking another manager with no plan to replace, no structure to support them, an awful squad that resembles Chelseas retirement home and injuries/suspensions to several key members? Issues are far far worse than the manager and putting all the blame on an inexperienced manager being given little support and no time to turn it round is no help at all.

That said I think hes making some bad decisions but also think his hands are pretty much tied behind his back sadly
 
fundy said:
why? whats the point in sacking another manager with no plan to replace, no structure to support them, an awful squad that resembles Chelseas retirement home and injuries/suspensions to several key members? Issues are far far worse than the manager and putting all the blame on an inexperienced manager being given little support and no time to turn it round is no help at all.

That said I think hes making some bad decisions but also think his hands are pretty much tied behind his back sadly
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I think you are right. How many managers can you get through. I think Arteta is making small steps with a very limited squad, some of which clearly don't seem to want to be there. It takes time to get rid of the dead wood and get new blood in and playing the way the manager wants them. At the moment Arsenal are reaping the results of leaving Wenger in charge too long and having a poor recruitment strategy
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I think you are right. How many managers can you get through. I think Arteta is making small steps with a very limited squad, some of which clearly don't seem to want to be there. It takes time to get rid of the dead wood and get new blood in and playing the way the manager wants them. At the moment Arsenal are reaping the results of leaving Wenger in charge too long and having a poor recruitment strategy
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Are the steps backwards?
 
pauljames87 said:
Are the steps backwards?
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I'm not sure they are. In the Europa league they've played with a lit more freedom and look a better side for it. In the PL the players look stifled and unsure of what they are trying to do. I suppose that is down to the manager but how can a side be so Jekyll and Hyde? What will a new manager be able to offer though with the players they have to work with?
 
I like Arteta, would of happily took him before we got Ancelotti, however, it has to be remembered he had no experience as a manager so needs time, plus, unfortunately some people make a better assistant manager than an actual manager and his appointment was always going to be something of a risk.
 
fundy said:
why? whats the point in sacking another manager with no plan to replace, no structure to support them, an awful squad that resembles Chelseas retirement home and injuries/suspensions to several key members? Issues are far far worse than the manager and putting all the blame on an inexperienced manager being given little support and no time to turn it round is no help at all.

That said I think hes making some bad decisions but also think his hands are pretty much tied behind his back sadly
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While that is all true there's no way your squad is the 16th best in the league, underperforming big time.
 
pauldj42 said:
I like Arteta, would of happily took him before we got Ancelotti, however, it has to be remembered he had no experience as a manager so needs time, plus, unfortunately some people make a better assistant manager than an actual manager and his appointment was always going to be something of a risk.
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I guess you need to give a manager a chance to know if they have what it takes or are better suited to being a number 2. Is it too early to make that call on Arteta
 
Nit sure whether to be annoyed or pleased. Really bossed the first half and deserved to be in front. Sloppy defending to commit the foul (and no qualms about the red card). After that hard to get anything on the break but contained Newcastle well. Trouble now is Brighton will win tomorrow and so the gap will be back to four points with tricky games against Southampton at home and Spurs away.
 
pauljames87 said:
I know I'm thinking of a fantasy football view but what is the point of bringing Salah on? Really defeats his argument for 5 subs

He needs a rest yes so on bench

Has a rest

4-0 up why not bring on orgi ? Not giving him a rest really ..
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Maybe if he has 5 subs he does what you suggest. With 3 he HAS to be tactical.

Just an opinion, though.
 
pauljames87 said:
How does mid week against spurs work then? Zero subs made
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What about it ? Klopp it appears felt that the game was that close and tight it wasn’t the right time to make a substitute- that’s what managers do, make the calls.
 
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