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ColchesterFC said:
He had his hands on him and put pressure on his back which is a push.

How hard does a push have to be to be a foul? A push is a push.

He made contact using his hands to push him. It's a foul - however soft it may be.

And my original post was slightly tongue in cheek. I don't think either were fouls but interested to see that those Liverpool fans saying that a push on Salah was a foul but a push by Mane wasn't.
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Were you fighting the good fight after seeing the foul on Salah against Fulham????
 
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Six consecutive away wins having gone behind in each of them and scoring three goals in each of them!
Bizarre.
A bit of good home form wouldn't be a bad thing.
Rashford was superb tonight, shop window Paul was a proper player too!
 
Liverbirdie said:
Shown yourself up there then havent you?(y)
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How? By not recalling on which particular occasion one of your serial divers hit the deck in a specific match? And this isn't a pop at Salah or Liverpool because all teams have several players that "initiate contact", "exaggerate contact", "look for the foul" or "dive". Let me know which foul on Salah and I'll give you my opinion.
 
ColchesterFC said:
How? By not recalling on which particular occasion one of your serial divers hit the deck in a specific match? And this isn't a pop at Salah or Liverpool because all teams have several players that "initiate contact", "exaggerate contact", "look for the foul" or "dive". Let me know which foul on Salah and I'll give you my opinion.
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The one you quoted earlier. (y)
 
Liverbirdie said:
The one you quoted earlier. (y)
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The one in the build up to the goal? In which case I said at the time that I didn't think it was a foul. But I was then told that it was a push and therefore a foul. It didn't have to be a hard push to be a foul so I assumed that those Liverpool fans also thought the push on Kane was a foul.

And I've already pointed out that my post was slightly tongue in cheek and I didn't think either challenge was a foul.
 
ColchesterFC said:
The one in the build up to the goal? In which case I said at the time that I didn't think it was a foul. But I was then told that it was a push and therefore a foul. It didn't have to be a hard push to be a foul so I assumed that those Liverpool fans also thought the push on Kane was a foul.

And I've already pointed out that my post was slightly tongue in cheek and I didn't think either challenge was a foul.
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Surely you know by now that when Salah gets a touch, a brush or a breath of wind it's always a foul.
 
Orikoru said:
Surely you know by now that when Salah gets a touch, a brush or a breath of wind it's always a foul.
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How about it’s easier to say

Every single player will go down at the slightest touch if they feel it will gain an advantage - it’s just a shame that the media and some fans only want to highlight foreign players that do when their English counterparts are very skilled in the same dark arts

It also doesn’t help when commentators and pundits etc come up with “entitled” to go down and when the touch is enough to foul them but they don’t go down the referees don’t give it

Simulation /diving etc has been in the game for decades now , and it won’t be eradicated unless they want to red card players for it and even then it’s going to be subjective

In regards Kane chance , no idea if he was pushed , they didn’t show a replay of it, Salah was pushed even if it was slight and it whilst it wasn’t enough for Salah to go down he wouldn’t get the foul if he didn’t.

One of the biggest issues and I think the media are now talking about it is Kane’s actions when the ball is in the air and he challenges then watches the opponent , turns and arch’s his back to get the contact , goes down like he has been shot but then the oppo is in air and about the land dangerously - it’s actions that are going to cause serous injury to a player , but because it’s golden boy it doesn’t get the critisim, if it was Salah or indeed any other foreign player then they would be crucified daily for it - what’s worse in the game ?


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ns-harry-kane-dangerous-signature-move-258079
 
Liverpoolphil said:
How about it’s easier to say

Every single player will go down at the slightest touch if they feel it will gain an advantage - it’s just a shame that the media and some fans only want to highlight foreign players that do when their English counterparts are very skilled in the same dark arts

It also doesn’t help when commentators and pundits etc come up with “entitled” to go down and when the touch is enough to foul them but they don’t go down the referees don’t give it

Simulation /diving etc has been in the game for decades now , and it won’t be eradicated unless they want to red card players for it and even then it’s going to be subjective

In regards Kane chance , no idea if he was pushed , they didn’t show a replay of it, Salah was pushed even if it was slight and it whilst it wasn’t enough for Salah to go down he wouldn’t get the foul if he didn’t.

One of the biggest issues and I think the media are now talking about it is Kane’s actions when the ball is in the air and he challenges then watches the opponent , turns and arch’s his back to get the contact , goes down like he has been shot but then the oppo is in air and about the land dangerously - it’s actions that are going to cause serous injury to a player , but because it’s golden boy it doesn’t get the critisim, if it was Salah or indeed any other foreign player then they would be crucified daily for it - what’s worse in the game ?


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ns-harry-kane-dangerous-signature-move-258079
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Plenty of things on a football pitch could cause serious injury to a player, i.e. slide tackles, competing for a header (see Raul Jimenez). Kane is simply trying to win a free kick for his team by backing in, Alan Shearer did it for years, then Drogba did it, it's not new. It's up to the ref to decide which way to give the decision. People might be calling it dangerous play, but the refs are giving the free kick to Kane so obviously they don't agree with that. The Lallana one was obviously VAR reviewed and still awarded to us, as it was a penalty. They asked Gary Cahill about it the other week (an actual player who was playing against Kane that weekend, rather than the opinion of a media hack or Twitter 'expert') and he said it was stuff and nonsense. https://www.skysports.com/football/...s-tottenham-forward-over-backing-in-criticism
 
Orikoru said:
Plenty of things on a football pitch could cause serious injury to a player, i.e. slide tackles, competing for a header (see Raul Jimenez). Kane is simply trying to win a free kick for his team by backing in, Alan Shearer did it for years, then Drogba did it, it's not new. It's up to the ref to decide which way to give the decision. People might be calling it dangerous play, but the refs are giving the free kick to Kane so obviously they don't agree with that. The Lallana one was obviously VAR reviewed and still awarded to us, as it was a penalty. They asked Gary Cahill about it the other week (an actual player who was playing against Kane that weekend, rather than the opinion of a media hack or Twitter 'expert') and he said it was stuff and nonsense. https://www.skysports.com/football/...s-tottenham-forward-over-backing-in-criticism
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So you seriously think there is nothing wrong with Kane backing into a player whilst they are in the air to get the contact and then having no clue how that player will land - I guess it wouldn’t be a foul then if the player landed on his neck because Kane arched the back as he does ?

They have outlawed challenging in the air in rugby for the exact reason of being unable to control a player landing

Kane isn’t actually challenging is he ? He has a look and then backs in whilst the player is in the air and then goes down himself - is it part of the game until someone breaks their neck ? Would you say the same if happened to Kane ?
 
Orikoru said:
Plenty of things on a football pitch could cause serious injury to a player, i.e. slide tackles, competing for a header (see Raul Jimenez). Kane is simply trying to win a free kick for his team by backing in, Alan Shearer did it for years, then Drogba did it, it's not new. It's up to the ref to decide which way to give the decision. People might be calling it dangerous play, but the refs are giving the free kick to Kane so obviously they don't agree with that. The Lallana one was obviously VAR reviewed and still awarded to us, as it was a penalty. They asked Gary Cahill about it the other week (an actual player who was playing against Kane that weekend, rather than the opinion of a media hack or Twitter 'expert') and he said it was stuff and nonsense. https://www.skysports.com/football/...s-tottenham-forward-over-backing-in-criticism
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Why did you bite ?
You know there's going to be 5 pages of bilge now from El Anchorito ?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
In regards Kane chance , no idea if he was pushed , they didn’t show a replay of it, Salah was pushed even if it was slight and it whilst it wasn’t enough for Salah to go down he wouldn’t get the foul if he didn’t.
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So, you're admitting that he dived, and therefore, should have been yellow carded?
 
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