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The Footie Thread

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Slime said:
So, you're admitting that he dived, and therefore, should have been yellow carded?
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It should have been a foul against Salah and then a yellow card for simulation- but it’s never going to happen
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So you seriously think there is nothing wrong with Kane backing into a player whilst they are in the air to get the contact and then having no clue how that player will land - I guess it wouldn’t be a foul then if the player landed on his neck because Kane arched the back as he does ?

They have outlawed challenging in the air in rugby for the exact reason of being unable to control a player landing

Kane isn’t actually challenging is he ? He has a look and then backs in whilst the player is in the air and then goes down himself - is it part of the game until someone breaks their neck ? Would you say the same if happened to Kane ?
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It's a contact sport. Man's game. etc. :LOL:

As I said, if it's a foul, the referee should give a foul, then he'll probably stop bothering. It's not for me to say if I like it or not. He's not trying to injure anyone, just win a free kick, and the refs are giving them so I'm sure he'll carry on.
 
Orikoru said:
It's a contact sport. Man's game. etc. :LOL:

As I said, if it's a foul, the referee should give a foul, then he'll probably stop bothering. It's not for me to say if I like it or not. He's not trying to injure anyone, just win a free kick, and the refs are giving them so I'm sure he'll carry on.
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Kane’s backing in is disgusting and could seriously injure someone. Why not just call it what it is?
 
Kellfire said:
Kane’s backing in is disgusting and could seriously injure someone. Why not just call it what it is?
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We are calling what it is - backing in to steal a free kick. I wouldn't call it disgusting unless you believe he is deliberately trying to hurt people, which I would suggest is complete rubbish.
 
Orikoru said:
We are calling what it is - backing in to steal a free kick. I wouldn't call it disgusting unless you believe he is deliberately trying to hurt people, which I would suggest is complete rubbish.
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It maybe isn’t deliberate but he risks flipping players over if he catches them in the wrong way and he knows that. He’s doing it to put fear into defenders so they are scared to jump against him imo.
 
Kellfire said:
It maybe isn’t deliberate but he risks flipping players over if he catches them in the wrong way and he knows that. He’s doing it to put fear into defenders so they are scared to jump against him imo.
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He does it because while he might be thick in every day life, on the football pitch he's a devious and clever.He's had enough people endanger his safety with ankle breaking tackles over the last few years that I don't think that aspect is a consideration to him. His attitude will be it's football and injuries happen. He just wants a free kick, and an edge in any game. Remember what Jose said he wants in his team - intelligent see you next Tuesdays. So there's no chance he'll be telling Kane to stop it.
 
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Orikoru said:
He does it because while he might be thick in every day life, on the football pitch he's a devious and clever. He's had enough people endanger his safety with ankle breaking tackles over the last few years that I don't think that aspect is a consideration to him. His attitude will be it's football and injuries happen. He just wants a free kick, and an edge in any game. Remember what Jose said he wants in his team - intelligent see you next Tuesdays. So there's no chance he'll be telling Kane to stop it.
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Injuries happen, absolutely and we can accept them if they happen in a fair attempt for the ball. There’s nothing fair about making a back into a player who’s off the ground and that vulnerable. Jose may not tell him to stop but I hope the authorities do.
 
ColchesterFC said:
The one in the build up to the goal? In which case I said at the time that I didn't think it was a foul. But I was then told that it was a push and therefore a foul. It didn't have to be a hard push to be a foul so I assumed that those Liverpool fans also thought the push on Kane was a foul.

And I've already pointed out that my post was slightly tongue in cheek and I didn't think either challenge was a foul.
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Yes the one in the build up to the Fulham goal.

The one one Salah, was a shove rather than a push. 2 hands outstretched into the back, moved Mo a yard and under the ball so he couldn't head it, its a foul all day long.

The Mane one wasn't as obvious (not even replayed by the cameras) and no histrionics from Kane.

There are shoves, pushes, "easing out", obstructions and much more in football and unless we fit pressure pads into their shirts, and have a newton meter counter with the VAR official, we can't have a definitive answer to what is and isn't a foul. Its a subjective one, but some more obvious to football fans than others, or at least ones that understand the game.

But don't give me that codswallop about Liverpool fans campaigning for things just because we think we were denied a foul in one game nonsense, or can you issue guidelines for us, please. Should we campaign and check out every match in the 4 leagues, or also include semi-pro, or just stick to the Premiership?
 
Orikoru said:
He does it because while he might be thick in every day life, on the football pitch he's a devious and clever. He's had enough people endanger his safety with ankle breaking tackles over the last few years that I don't think that aspect is a consideration to him. His attitude will be it's football and injuries happen. He just want a free kick, and an edge in any game. Remember what Jose said he wants in his team - intelligent see you next Tuesdays. So there's no chance he'll be telling Kane to stop it.
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There is a difference between someone being tackled and getting an injury and someone manipulating another player whilst they are in the air and having zero control on how they will land -it’s very dangerous and thankfully it’s starting to be highlighted because you don’t want someone to land on their head and have real serious injury all because of Kane backing into him whilst he is in the air. I’m amazed you really can’t see how dangerous it is - and I will be amazed also if Kane doesn’t understand.

If a foreign player was doing it then the media would be all over it like a rash and the minute Harry Kane is on the receiving end the reaction will be hugely different. Maybe that’s what will stop him - someone doing it to him and he lands badly
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So you seriously think there is nothing wrong with Kane backing into a player whilst they are in the air to get the contact and then having no clue how that player will land - I guess it wouldn’t be a foul then if the player landed on his neck because Kane arched the back as he does ?

They have outlawed challenging in the air in rugby for the exact reason of being unable to control a player landing

Kane isn’t actually challenging is he ? He has a look and then backs in whilst the player is in the air and then goes down himself - is it part of the game until someone breaks their neck ? Would you say the same if happened to Kane ?
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Kane's "speciality" foul isn't actually backing in, its more backing under the player.

When the player gets up early, which most good centre halves do, Kane cant win it, so he backs in under him forcing the player over the top of him, and in a highly dangerous manner, and it should be a free kick to the other team, and if serious enough a yellow or red. It literally could break someone's neck.

That Lallana one was a farcical one and one of the worst decisions I've seen all season - that VAR ref should have had a 3 month ban for giving that as a penalty. Atrocious decision.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
There is a difference between someone being tackled and getting an injury and someone manipulating another player whilst they are in the air and having zero control on how they will land -it’s very dangerous and thankfully it’s starting to be highlighted because you don’t want someone to land on their head and have real serious injury all because of Kane backing into him whilst he is in the air. I’m amazed you really can’t see how dangerous it is - and I will be amazed also if Kane doesn’t understand.

If a foreign player was doing it then the media would be all over it like a rash and the minute Harry Kane is on the receiving end the reaction will be hugely different. Maybe that’s what will stop him - someone doing it to him and he lands badly
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My point is that I'm struggling to muster any outrage about it when it's currently winning us free kicks and penalties. It's up to the referees to crack down on it if they start to deem it a foul the other way - not me, or Jose or Kane himself.

I don't understand your point about the media, as far as I saw this was all over the media for about a week.
 
Orikoru said:
My point is that I'm struggling to muster any outrage about it when it's currently winning us free kicks and penalties. It's up to the referees to crack down on it if they start to deem it a foul the other way - not me, or Jose or Kane himself.

I don't understand your point about the media, as far as I saw this was all over the media for about a week.
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So what we can grasp is you aren’t bothered about other players getting injured because in the process Spurs gain a free kick ?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So what we can grasp is you aren’t bothered about other players getting injured because in the process Spurs gain a free kick ?
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I'm not bothered about something which apparently is worthy of outrage, but so far the refs have not only not deemed it not a foul, but in fact have given a foul the other way. And that a Premier League defender has said he's totally unbothered about as well. So perhaps it is being blown out of proportion a tad.
 
Stuart_C said:
Sorry Junior I couldn't help it ?

Who buys him on his form over the last few seasons? I can't think if anyone daft enough, not even PSG....
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PSG and Madrid would both snap him up - if anything the marketing would be huge , Madrid etc would make a fortune out of him
 
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