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The Footie Thread

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ger147 said:
Of course not.

Post one example where a referee, assistant referee or 4th official has refereed to a player or member of the back room staff as "the white one".

There are none because it never happens. ??
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Let me just consult my catalogue of all football-based interactions between officials and coaches that have ever happened and I'll get back to you. :LOL: Dear me.
 
Slime said:
By whom, exactly?
If someone described me as 'The white guy' I'd have no problem whatsoever.
It's exactly the same as if someone had called me 'The tall guy' or 'The bald guy'.
I think some people are trying to make something out of a situation that didn't really exist.
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UEFA, hence the re-scheduled game, the investigation and the upcoming 10 game ban for the 4th official involved.
 
ger147 said:
UEFA, hence the re-scheduled game, the investigation and the upcoming 10 game ban for the 4th official involved.
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They had no choice to reschedule because the teams refused to play because of what they alleged to have heard. I think a ban is harsh but they'll obviously take the opportunity to throw the book at him when they've been too lenient on actual racism in the past.
 
Tashyboy said:
Totally totally disagree. It was rammed down my neck whilst I was on an adoption course that people are Black not coloured and that they are proud to be black. If you cannot say Black then what the hell is Black Lives Matter If you cannot say it.
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I think you've misread his post. I might have but I don't think so.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I think you've misread his post. I might have but I don't think so.
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I don’t think so LT, he said you cannot describe someone by there skin colour, any skin colour. But it already happens, Especially by the police looking for criminals. In this instance was the 4th official using a derogatory term to describe the guy. I don’t think so. Was he being offensive.I don’t think so. Could he very possibly of described him better. Well we have got to say yes because we don’t want this to happen again. What I don’t want to see is this 4th official used as a scapegoat in what ( Rascism) is a serious matter.
 
Slime said:
By whom, exactly?
If someone described me as 'The white guy' I'd have no problem whatsoever.
It's exactly the same as if someone had called me 'The tall guy' or 'The bald guy'.
I think some people are trying to make something out of a situation that didn't really exist.
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It doesn’t matter if you got offended by being called “The White Guy” just like the 4th Official could of singled out a different black footballer and he didn’t take any offence.

This one did, and it is his right to bring the 4th Official to task because he was offended!

Impact!!!!!!
 
Tashyboy said:
I don’t think so LT, he said you cannot describe someone by there skin colour, any skin colour. But it already happens, Especially by the police looking for criminals. In this instance was the 4th official using a derogatory term to describe the guy. I don’t think so. Was he being offensive.I don’t think so. Could he very possibly of described him better. Well we have got to say yes because we don’t want this to happen again. What I don’t want to see is this 4th official used as a scapegoat in what ( Rascism) is a serious matter.
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I read this post quite differently, I understand your point ?.
 
Tashyboy said:
I don’t think so LT, he said you cannot describe someone by there skin colour, any skin colour. But it already happens, Especially by the police looking for criminals. In this instance was the 4th official using a derogatory term to describe the guy. I don’t think so. Was he being offensive.I don’t think so. Could he very possibly of described him better. Well we have got to say yes because we don’t want this to happen again. What I don’t want to see is this 4th official used as a scapegoat in what ( Rascism) is a serious matter.
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This has the potential to escalate quickly :ROFLMAO:
 
pauldj42 said:
It doesn’t matter if you got offended by being called “The White Guy” just like the 4th Official could of singled out a different black footballer and he didn’t take any offence.

This one did, and it is his right to bring the 4th Official to task because he was offended!

Impact!!!!!!
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I understand this, but I don't think you can legislate for the most sensitive members of society, I feel like there has to be a line in the sand somewhere. Or else you end up in some quite silly situations where you really don't know what you can say. On a general note, if I was describing someone who was black to another person, and I couldn't say that they were black, it would take them a hell of a lot longer to know who I meant wouldn't it. To my mind saying someone is black is nothing more than a descriptive fact.

We should probably wrap this up as everyone has their own view on it, but I would say it's hard to judge the official without knowing the tone with which he said it, because even that can change everything. Saying "it was the black man" from a group of coaches is one thing, but an over-zealous "it was the black guy! send off the black guy!" is quite another. That's the information that we're lacking really.
 
Orikoru said:
I understand this, but I don't think you can legislate for the most sensitive members of society, I feel like there has to be a line in the sand somewhere. Or else you end up in some quite silly situations where you really don't know what you can say. On a general note, if I was describing someone who was black to another person, and I couldn't say that they were black, it would take them a hell of a lot longer to know who I meant wouldn't it. To my mind saying someone is black is nothing more than a descriptive fact.

We should probably wrap this up as everyone has their own view on it, but I would say it's hard to judge the official without knowing the tone with which he said it, because even that can change everything. Saying "it was the black man" from a group of coaches is one thing, but an over-zealous "it was the black guy! send off the black guy!" is quite another. That's the information that we're lacking really.
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If only football had a simple and easy way of identifying players

It was number 4

Ref blows whistle number 4 here

Job done.
 
Orikoru said:
I understand this, but I don't think you can legislate for the most sensitive members of society, I feel like there has to be a line in the sand somewhere. Or else you end up in some quite silly situations where you really don't know what you can say. On a general note, if I was describing someone who was black to another person, and I couldn't say that they were black, it would take them a hell of a lot longer to know who I meant wouldn't it. To my mind saying someone is black is nothing more than a descriptive fact.

We should probably wrap this up as everyone has their own view on it, but I would say it's hard to judge the official without knowing the tone with which he said it, because even that can change everything. Saying "it was the black man" from a group of coaches is one thing, but an over-zealous "it was the black guy! send off the black guy!" is quite another. That's the information that we're lacking really.
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If we are lacking that information why are so many on here questioning what happened and coming up with scenarios to support their point of view.

ie: If there were 5 people on the bench, 4 white, 1 black, all he had to say was: him in the middle, bloke on the left, 2nd bloke on the right etc.

That’s all he had to say, avoid compromising himself or anyone else.
 
pauldj42 said:
If we are lacking that information why are so many on here questioning what happened and coming up with scenarios to support their point of view.

ie: If there were 5 people on the bench, 4 white, 1 black, all he had to say was: him in the middle, bloke on the left, 2nd bloke on the right etc.

That’s all he had to say, avoid compromising himself or anyone else.
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This I get and understand as I mentioned in one of me posts. Come what May because we are human we sometimes get things wrong or not quite correct. What it has done is once more opened discussion and education re Rascism in the same way Millwall fans did the other day, and that can only be a positive.
 
pauldj42 said:
It doesn’t matter if you got offended by being called “The White Guy” just like the 4th Official could of singled out a different black footballer and he didn’t take any offence.

This one did, and it is his right to bring the 4th Official to task because he was offended!

Impact!!!!!!
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Offended by being described as 'the black guy' when, inactual fact, he was 'the black guy'!
Where is the offensive bit?
 
Slime said:
Offended by being described as 'the black guy' when, inactual fact, he was 'the black guy'!
Where is the offensive bit?
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Maybe he should of gone with Dude....it's the Black Dude...its the White dude....Asian Dude...Short Dude...Tall Dude, even get away with Fat Dude......Dudes friendly, ?
 
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