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You cannot refer to someone by their colour, it’s as simple as that. The 4th official should know an be better than that.
Utter nonsense. If I'm describing someone's appearance without judgement or bias then I'm going to tell you he's black if he's black. How the hell can that be racist?
 
Utter nonsense. If I'm describing someone's appearance without judgement or bias then I'm going to tell you he's black if he's black. How the hell can that be racist?

If the assistant manager was white, the 4th official would never, NEVER, EVER have referred to him as "the white guy". So why bring his skin colour into it just because he's black?
 
If the assistant manager was white, the 4th official would never, NEVER, EVER have referred to him as "the white guy". So why bring his skin colour into it just because he's black?
He would have done if he was the only white guy surrounded by black guys. Saying 'the white guy' if there was 7 white guys would be completely useless. Similarly if all the coaches were black he wouldn't have bothered saying the black guy would he? There was one black guy and 6 or whatever white guys, it was the quickest and most efficient way to describe which one he was identifying. It really is that simple.

I still respect the team's right to be offended as I think there were some crossed wires with 'negru' being the Romanian word for black, so I still think it was good that they showed solidarity and walked off, given what they believed the situation was. I just hope they don't throw the book at this official as I don't think it would be fair.
 
If the assistant manager was white, the 4th official would never, NEVER, EVER have referred to him as "the white guy". So why bring his skin colour into it just because he's black?

This.

Describing a person as black is not racist. It's the relevance of whether they are black which is the issue, was it necessary to single out Webo as black?

If the 4th official was pointing out somebody standing on his own and referred to him as the black guy that is not acceptable. If there were two or more coaches standing next to each other wearing the same clothes, one white one black, and the quickest way to identify him was to say the black one then it's different. I've not got the full picture but it is clear that Webo and others felt it was the former scenario.
 
He would have done if he was the only white guy surrounded by black guys. Saying 'the white guy' if there was 7 white guys would be completely useless. Similarly if all the coaches were black he wouldn't have bothered saying the black guy would he? There was one black guy and 6 or whatever white guys, it was the quickest and most efficient way to describe which one he was identifying. It really is that simple.

I still respect the team's right to be offended as I think there were some crossed wires with 'negru' being the Romanian word for black, so I still think it was good that they showed solidarity and walked off, given what they believed the situation was. I just hope they don't throw the book at this official as I don't think it would be fair.

He would not have referred to any assistant manager as the "white one". That never EVER happens, you know it and so do I so let's not pretend it ever happens, it doesn't.

Describing someone by their skin colour is deemed unacceptable, it really IS that simple.
 
He would not have referred to any assistant manager as the "white one". That never EVER happens, you know it and so do I so let's not pretend it ever happens, it doesn't.

Describing someone by their skin colour is deemed unacceptable, it really IS that simple.
What are you talking about? If there was one white guy among five or however many black guys you would absolutely refer to him as the white guy. I would, plenty of people would. It's the quickest way to identify who you're talking about in the situation.
 
What are you talking about? If there was one white guy among five or however many black guys you would absolutely refer to him as the white guy. I would, plenty of people would. It's the quickest way to identify who you're talking about in the situation.

I repeat what I said above, it never happens, and I would never say that and it's not acceptable.
 
You cannot refer to someone by their colour, it’s as simple as that. The 4th official should know an be better than that.

Totally totally disagree. It was rammed down my neck whilst I was on an adoption course that people are Black not coloured and that they are proud to be black. If you cannot say Black then what the hell is Black Lives Matter If you cannot say it.
 
He would not have referred to any assistant manager as the "white one". That never EVER happens, you know it and so do I so let's not pretend it ever happens, it doesn't.

Describing someone by their skin colour is deemed unacceptable, it really IS that simple.

By whom, exactly?
If someone described me as 'The white guy' I'd have no problem whatsoever.
It's exactly the same as if someone had called me 'The tall guy' or 'The bald guy'.
I think some people are trying to make something out of a situation that didn't really exist.
 
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