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The Footie Thread

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I was not overly interested in the Spurs game so I went and walked the dog. Came back and I've seen the last 20-25 minutes. All Arsenal but I don't think Lloris has got his gloves dirty. Have Arsenal had any chances in the second half? Spurs are clearly very well drilled but Arsenal look toothless.
 
Didn't think Arsenal were as bad as they have been in other games this season but Mourinho has got them organised, especially at the back and Son will always be a threat. I don't think they'll win the league but think they'll be top four
 
Here comes the Yid of doom, a fan who maybe stood next to too many fickle fans on the shelf ??
Yes Jose deserves credit for making Spurs more resilient, difficult to beat and has created a togetherness. HOWEVER let’s not get carried away. I’m not wholly convinced by this smash and grab style.
When we need some guile and creativity who will we turn to ? N’dombele may influence, but it’s too early to say.
When we play so called poorer teams at home who sit back, what then, whose going to unlock them ?
When we play top, top quality teams, this formation will fail. Statistically teams who have more possession will score. When you sit back and invite pressure you will concede goals.
I get it that at times we will need to adopt this style, but not ALL the time. There is a time and a place.
I get it’s a results business, but sorry I don’t FULLY buy into this style.
 
Funniest moment this weekend Partey walking off leaving his teammates exposed and one of the Arsenal staff pushing him back on??
 
Jose doing Jose tings.

Done Arsenal like a kipper. Destroyed Utd, outsmarted Pep, did a job on Chelsea and now the same against Arsenal. Very impressive start and they probably should have another 4 points if you look at the Newcastle and West Ham games.

Spurs are perfect for Mourinho's world class ability as a coach - Underdogs, team of players who will run through brick walls for him (Bar Alli) and with a couple of world class forwards to win the points. Throw in Bale and the league being a weird one and they'll definitely get third, if not second bar serious injuries to Kane or Son.
 
Arteta continuing to pick Willian is going to get him sacked eventually. Add in out of form senior players like Lacazette, and Xhaka, chuck in past its like Luiz, all of whom have been stinking the place up this season, and he can't say it won't be deserved. It's a shame, as I really do think he has promise, but misplaced loyalty is a bad idea.
He should build for the future, not try to hedge his bets.

That said, I didn't see todays game, I was driving home. Sounds like I was lucky.
 
murphthemog said:
Arteta continuing to pick Willian is going to get him sacked eventually. Add in out of form senior players like Lacazette, and Xhaka, chuck in past its like Luiz, all of whom have been stinking the place up this season, and he can't say it won't be deserved. It's a shame, as I really do think he has promise, but misplaced loyalty is a bad idea.
He should build for the future, not try to hedge his bets.

That said, I didn't see todays game, I was driving home. Sounds like I was lucky.
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if youre struggling to sleep later watch the 2nd half ;)
 
Henderson get out of the refs face.....

Not sure of the decision but don't get in the face

Poor from the captain
 
fundy said:
really hate this argument!!! doesnt make it big, clever or right, especially for mr squeaky clean
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And especially during covid times

I know their tested all time but doesn't set a good example ..

We cant sing chants at games but it's fine to get right up in the refs face and yell
 
fundy said:
really hate this argument!!! doesnt make it big, clever or right, especially for mr squeaky clean

wolves player not booked because ref thought it was a pen, and cant use var for a yellow card
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Whether you hate the argument or not it’s a fact that most players get in the refs face
 
murphthemog said:
Arteta continuing to pick Willian is going to get him sacked eventually. Add in out of form senior players like Lacazette, and Xhaka, chuck in past its like Luiz, all of whom have been stinking the place up this season, and he can't say it won't be deserved. It's a shame, as I really do think he has promise, but misplaced loyalty is a bad idea.
He should build for the future, not try to hedge his bets.

That said, I didn't see todays game, I was driving home. Sounds like I was lucky.
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Your problem is the board, Edu and the lack of ambition/money. Arteta has done a decent job given the resources but you can't compete with the other top sides. Lampard and Ole have spent over £250m a piece and had better squads to build on. Shameful the board didn't pay off Ozil and have let him hang around making fun of the club on Twitter. Why would anyone put a shift in when someone at the club is earning four or five times them for doing nothing?

I think the keeper and defence looks decent, you just need a top CB alongside Gabriel. The midfield and attack are where it falls apart. Theres such a lack of quality it's staggering. Partey is potentially good, Saka loads of potential and Auba is top class, although giving a player past 30 such a big deal is questionable. Moving him to the wing because theres no one else has destroyed his confidence.

Lacazette, Pepe and Xhaka aren't going to get you anywhere near the Top 4. Still makes me laugh out loud Pepe cost north of 80m.
 
Jensen said:
When we need some guile and creativity who will we turn to ? N’dombele may influence, but it’s too early to say.
When we play so called poorer teams at home who sit back, what then, whose going to unlock them ?
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True, but we had that problem long before Mourinho arrived. We used to over-rely on Eriksen for everything.
When we play top, top quality teams, this formation will fail. Statistically teams who have more possession will score. When you sit back and invite pressure you will concede goals.
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Sorry, what teams are these? Liverpool are the only one left. Yes we might lose to Liverpool - oh well, a lot of teams do. The other 'top teams' we've already played and got results.
I get it that at times we will need to adopt this style, but not ALL the time. There is a time and a place.
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We've played three supposed 'big teams' (Arsenal really don't qualify now but traditionally anyway) in a row, come away with 7 points and 0 conceded. I'm taking that all day long. I've seen too many pretty football but soft and pathetic defensively teams. We scored three lovely goals against West Ham then conceded three daft ones at the end. Give me the defensive resilience over that please.
 
Orikoru said:
True, but we had that problem long before Mourinho arrived. We used to over-rely on Eriksen for everything.

Sorry, what teams are these? Liverpool are the only one left. Yes we might lose to Liverpool - oh well, a lot of teams do. The other 'top teams' we've already played and got results.

We've played three supposed 'big teams' (Arsenal really don't qualify now but traditionally anyway) in a row, come away with 7 points and 0 conceded. I'm taking that all day long. I've seen too many pretty football but soft and pathetic defensively teams. We scored three lovely goals against West Ham then conceded three daft ones at the end. Give me the defensive resilience over that please.
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Two daft and one worldy ...
 
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