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75% for "normal" fans and 25% players, sponsors etc.
Just a point of order, I know at least 3 sponsors gave their allocation to local charities to give to people within the L postcode.
75% for "normal" fans and 25% players, sponsors etc.
Just a point of order, I know at least 3 sponsors gave their allocation to local charities to give to people within the L postcode.
PJ87
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Orikoru
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Respecting the referee is one thing but that's way over-the-top. I respect lots of people without being told to speak when spoken to and to address them as sir for goodness sake. When I play the referees we respect are the ones who talk to us like adults and explain their decisions. The ones who talk down to us and bark orders like that are the ones who don't get the respect I'm afraid.
To be fair, I suspect there was more than a degree of the referee putting the player back in his box and firmly shutting the lid. That, and he was clearly making a point to the other 29 players on the pitch.
I never hear rugby players talk to referees with anything other than respect, the simple reason being they know full well they will be penalised for stepping out of line. Hence conversations like the one I quoted are rare, as they simply aren’t needed in the first place.
PJ87
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However what sport are the refs respected at the top level? The one where they the refs word is king and he is sir
The ref isn't there to make friends he is there to do a job.
Like Billy says .. that convo doesn't happen all time because the refs lay down the law and the players respect them
Footballers don't respect the refs .
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Surely the 4th official could have said something as it whistled straight over his head in the technical area.
4LEX
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The refs in rugby are top class, the ones in football are awful and don't deserve respect. Xhaka made a rugby tackle in the second minute and no booking. How can you respect refs who get the basic decisions so wrong? First decision in a big game and so clearly wrong. You have a linesman yesterday not even looking if a ball went out of play which is his job. The players don't respect them, the managers don't and the fans don't.
Get the refs on video cam with sound like the Police, get them to account for their decisions after games in an interview and gradually the quality and respect will improve.
Get the refs on video cam with sound like the Police, get them to account for their decisions after games in an interview and gradually the quality and respect will improve.
clubchamp98
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That’s what football needs imo.
A bit of discipline and respect for the ref and other players.
Stop all this screaming trying to get him booked or worse.
ColchesterFC
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Surely the 4th official could have said something as it whistled straight over his head in the technical area.
The VAR official at Stockley Park could probably have ruled on it as the ball was so far out of play it went past their window. ?
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Maybe there is the exact issue with football and why the referee appears to have zero control over the players - you say you respect the referee but I reckon just all other footballers when they decision goes against you then you will be balling and screaming at him
Football is the one sport where people show complete disrespect to the referee regardless of what level and how good rbe ref is
When I umpire hockey matches - any back chat , straight to sit down for 2 mins , you don’t see any in rugby at all and if there is , sit down for 10 mins. You don’t see dissent in many other sports because the players actually do respect the referees - footballers don’t and never will - they say they do but as soon as something goes against rightly or wrongly then that respect will go out of the window.
Maybe the players need to be spoken to and treated like children because that’s how they act 99% of the time
PJ87
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Think that's harsh on kids to be fair...
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Some kids are worse than adults!!
My lads team U11's played yesterday, there was a scuffle between 2 players. Ref blew for a foul, the offender pushed our player and threw the ball at him.
Ref called the offender over who carried on walking away, he blew his whistle and called him again only for the kid to tell him to Feck Off and gave him 2 fingers. The ref sends him off and the manager says to the kid" why are you doing that?" Kid responds "you told us to kick them so that's what I done"?
Foxholer
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Which is almost always impossible!
Tashyboy
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cannot get 2,000 fans from the City so gave some to sponsors ???
Tashyboy
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Thing is though, I remember playing rugby at school in the 70’s and everything was Sir when speaking to the ref/Sir. But again back in the 70’s when I played football it was ref and not Sir. The history when it comes to respect of referees in both sports are “ polar opposites”.
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Football wasn’t invented yesterday, its not Rugby or Hockey or any other Sport, it’s Football and we are were we are today because of its history and its popularity.
No the arguing with Refs isn’t good, but it’s always gone on, and please, there are plenty of videos of Rugby Refs getting abuse, plus they have their own issues.
Maybe we should ask fans to remain silent when penalties are being took, after all Rugby fans do or maybe we should just ban fans all together from Football, isn’t it now proven we don’t need them, we’ve had no violence amongst supporters, no drunken instances, less Police needed at the grounds. Win/Win for society!
Don’t worry we’ll soon get use to it!
Or maybe we leave it alone and acceot the game we love isn’t perfect and does have problems that we should try and solve without constantly year after year comparing it to other sports.
None of us are innocent in this 90+ minutes in a game and we highlight the 30 seconds of bad. Lpool made a very good Wolves side look poor last night and yet the discussion is about Henderson getting in the Refs face for a few seconds!
It’s Football, it’s our game, let’s celebrate the good instead of highlighting the bad.
No the arguing with Refs isn’t good, but it’s always gone on, and please, there are plenty of videos of Rugby Refs getting abuse, plus they have their own issues.
Maybe we should ask fans to remain silent when penalties are being took, after all Rugby fans do or maybe we should just ban fans all together from Football, isn’t it now proven we don’t need them, we’ve had no violence amongst supporters, no drunken instances, less Police needed at the grounds. Win/Win for society!
Don’t worry we’ll soon get use to it!
Or maybe we leave it alone and acceot the game we love isn’t perfect and does have problems that we should try and solve without constantly year after year comparing it to other sports.
None of us are innocent in this 90+ minutes in a game and we highlight the 30 seconds of bad. Lpool made a very good Wolves side look poor last night and yet the discussion is about Henderson getting in the Refs face for a few seconds!
It’s Football, it’s our game, let’s celebrate the good instead of highlighting the bad.
Tashyboy
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I didn’t know Henderson was excersising his vocal chords ? thought it was a “ respect of refs” discussion, what was hendo upset about
Kellfire
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Shouting at someone in the heat of the moment does not mean we don’t respect someone. Zero tolerance isn’t the way forward imo.
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It started on here with post #3173.
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So what’s the thoughts on this - didn’t realise it until they mentioned on Sky , it happens regularly, what happens when someone lands badly and some serious damage is caused. It’s very dangerous- should Kane face any sanctions when he does it ?
