The Footie Thread

[clubchamp98]

Yes, PL defenders are going to have to become accustomed to defending with their arms tucked in just as they've been doing for sometime in mainland Europe. Awkward but will allow more crosses to happen.

That’s your balance though.
You can’t run with your arms behind your back.
There was always going to be a time when players aimed for defenders arms that time has come imo.
You use your arms as balance points to turn ,they have changed the rule to suit VAR when it should be the other way around.
It’s spoiling the game.

 

[fundy]

PS Kevin not been on it from the start for me.

been Citys best player for me, the only one consistently finding space and causing Liverpool problems

 

[Beezerk]

Where else is his arm supposed to be? he's running, then jumps in the air to block the cross. As soon as the replay show it's hit his arm it's always gonna be given but I don't understand what he's supposed to do?

By his side?
The ball is miles away, there's no danger of the attacker going past him so why jump with your arm out when he has time to tuck it away. He knows exactly what he's doing imo, trying to be cute and get away with it when in reality he's being stupid.
Penalty all day long for me.

 

[2blue]

That’s your balance though.
You can’t run with your arms behind your back.
There was always going to be a time when players aimed for defenders arms that time has come imo.
You use your arms as balance points to turn ,they have changed the rule to suit VAR when it should be the other way around.
It’s spoiling the game.

That reasoning will always be used to excuse arms unintentionally blocking crosses but is unsupported when you see how they've adapted to it in mainland Europe..... Seems to be the way it's being refereed internationally so best we get used to it.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

That reasoning will always be used to excuse arms unintentionally blocking crosses but is unsupported when you see how they've adapted to it in mainland Europe..... Seems to be the way it's being refereed internationally so best we get used to it.

Similar to when officials clamped down on players jumping for headers using their arms swinging for leverage. Old centre forwards said it was impossible to do, now it is pretty much only Andy Carroll that gives the occasional elbow in the face.

Players will either adapt or give away more penalties. The majority will adapt, better than giving goals away.

 

[Reemul]

That reasoning will always be used to excuse arms unintentionally blocking crosses but is unsupported when you see how they've adapted to it in mainland Europe..... Seems to be the way it's being refereed internationally so best we get used to it.

I like that word "Unintentionally", it answers it perfectly imo.

 

[fundy]

Liverpool running out of gas a bit here, there for the taking

 

[2blue]

I like that word "Unintentionally", it answers it perfectly imo.

Well...... perhaps 'unintentionally' written in this way, explains it more clearly...... after all who can decide what was 'intentional' & what wasn't... & there lies the problem IMO.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

I think a draw was a fair result, but I'm surprised Liverpool didn't get a 2nd goal.

 

[clubchamp98]

That reasoning will always be used to excuse arms unintentionally blocking crosses but is unsupported when you see how they've adapted to it in mainland Europe..... Seems to be the way it's being refereed internationally so best we get used to it.

Do you think it’s made football better in Europe.
You can’t run without moving your arms.
Well you can but it will be like Penguins playing.

 

[hairball_89]

rubbish second half. Got what we deserved really. it is a little worrying that we only seem to be able to sustain a reasonable tempo for half an hour or so.

But, arguably the hardest away of the season done and a point picked up so can't be too annoyed. Just hoping Trent picked up enough of a knock to keep him out of England duty and he gets 2 weeks off!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It was a fair result - we had chances but just fell away second half , KDB is such a good player. In the end happy with a point

 

[2blue]

Do you think it’s made football better in Europe.
You can’t run without moving your arms.
Well you can but it will be like Penguins playing.

Can't see evidence of how it has stopped players from running using their arms. However, it has in Europe & will in the PL prevent players, intentionally or 'unintentionally' blocking crosses with their arms... players will have to adapt & that can only be a good thing as that's what they will face in international football.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Enjoyable enough for the neutral but never expected De Bruyne to miss that penalty as badly as that. Over 40 penalties already (and many more for handball than before) and think this "natural position" is killing the game

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Do you think it’s made football better in Europe.
You can’t run without moving your arms.
Well you can but it will be like Penguins playing.

You can run normally but the moment the attacker looks to shoot or cross then you pull your arms back. If would soon become second nature.

 

[Fade and Die]

I'm just so not into football - VAR has killed it for me. That and just the way the authorities almost make players act in a away we all despise. Sterling stays on his feet and doesn't get the decision. Mane is fouled and goes down like he's been hit by a sniper - why wouldn't he though...

I just can't get emotional about even a game as big as this

I realised last night that I celebrate differently now...when we score its just a loud YESSS! then a minute wait to see if the goal is "good".

What a way to celebrate a 91st minute winner!

 

[Slime]

rubbish second half. Got what we deserved really. it is a little worrying that we only seem to be able to sustain a reasonable tempo for half an hour or so.

But, arguably the hardest away of the season done and a point picked up so can't be too annoyed. Just hoping Trent picked up enough of a knock to keep him out of England duty and he gets 2 weeks off!

Hey, you haven't been to OLd Trafford yet, ....................................... oh, hang on a minute.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Good point, well made.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Going by their earlier decision in the Wolves game then they are going to give it as a penalty - even though neither shoold be

This is wrong and dangerous.

Just because wrong decisions have been given and are being accepted, it’s not right for wrong decisions to be given with VAR.

Listening to Neville-who usually nails this type of stuff- saying it’s pen because of what got given to Leicester today is shocking.

 

[clubchamp98]

It was a fair result - we had chances but just fell away second half , KDB is such a good player. In the end happy with a point

Fair assessment
But thought we had them worried but wasted several good opportunities first half with the wrong ball.

 

[clubchamp98]

Can't see evidence of how it has stopped players from running using their arms. However, it has in Europe & will in the PL prevent players, intentionally or 'unintentionally' blocking crosses with their arms... players will have to adapt & that can only be a good thing as that's what they will face in international football.

The problem with that logic is .
You use your arms to run but how do you know when he’s going to cross the ball so you can fold them in.
It’s ridiculous imo.