clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes a great keeperPretty sure Everton fans would take Neville Southall at his prime currently, hed certainly have put it in row Z
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes never understood why people hate players based on media hype and what the press print.
But have to say if only half they print about him is true he’s not liked for a reason.
He may be like Patrick Reed and thrive on the aggro.
No excuse for racism though.
A bit of fun. Nev is clearly our top man if you create a best ever team. For you guys, Clemence, Grobelaar or Allison? Who do you choose?
Apologies to keepers prior to this, I can't comment on them. If you remember a cracker from the black and white days then include them.
SteveW86
Head Pro
Tricky question at answer surely as the teams they played in play in a totally different way. Would Allison be as good if he had to accurately pass a brick?
I get your point but if you look at them primarily as the blokes who stop the ball going in the net, catch the crosses, organise the defence etc who would you want between the sticks?
SteveW86
Head Pro
Oh I agree, I always find it difficult comparing individuals who play in a team sport when styles of play vary so much. Being 34 my knowledge of anything pre premiership is pretty much non existent so I cant really give a proper answer.
It is a proper pub question with no real answer, just for fun. If we stick with Liverpool then Phil Neale would be a contender for the right full back position. Not sure if he ever overlapped in his career but not many ever got the better of him, one of the best penalty takers there has been. Comparing him to TAA is hard as he is all about going forward with defending almost secondary. Both very good players in entirely different eras, playing different styles.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Tommy Lawrence !
I would take Clemence all day.
Very hard to choose but saw him every week , he just didn’t make mistakes.
Or I can’t remember them more likely.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Neal was pretty good going forward but no TAA.
But you can’t compare them as defenders Neal hands down.
TAA plays more like a winger ( remember them) I think he would make a great midfielder if he had no defensive duties.
Alan Hansen is my next answer !
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Some great football before the PL
Proper tackling.
Everyone knew what handball was.
Everyone knew the offside rule.
Muddy pitches. Jumpers for goal posts.( sorry ) that’s a lie.
No diving , except F Lee of City.
The Boys pen.
Good old days. But very hard to compare to modern footballers if you brush their shirt by accident they go down screaming.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I used to laugh at the 'footy was better in my day' brigade, but I do long for the days in bold.
I mentioned black and white as my grandad would talk about players from the 60's who I knew nothing about yet would have to be in the discussion. I covered myself for your Tommy Lawrence answer
.Clemence was a class act and apart from his infamous Scotland incident I remember him in the same way. As you say, maybe it is memory, fewer cameras etc but I don't think so. Grobelaar changed the mould and so was different again. I can't remember a keeper before him for coming out for crosses in the way he did. He was tremendously athletic.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
That makes you a member now then !I used to laugh at the 'footy was better in my day' brigade, but I do long for the days in bold.
It wasn’t better it was different.
Slower definitely.
But I do think all the rule changes and VAR are putting people off.
The handball rule is a joke now imo.
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clubchamp98
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Yes he was .I mentioned black and white as my grandad would talk about players from the 60's who I knew nothing about yet would have to be in the discussion. I covered myself for your Tommy Lawrence answer
Clemence was a class act and apart from his infamous Scotland incident I remember him in the same way. As you say, maybe it is memory, fewer cameras etc but I don't think so. Grobelaar changed the mould and so was different again. I can't remember a keeper before him for coming out for crosses in the way he did. He was tremendously athletic.
And with all them keepers we were very successful.
This shows how important a good keeper is and Allison is just as important as VVD imo to our success the last few years.
Still love to have Rush up front and Souness in this team that would be awesome.
I saw an old Big Match special during lock down, I posted about it at the time. It was slower, teams did not retain posession anywhere near as well but blimey I loved it. No tippy tappy stuff. Balls up to the big man if no pass was on, 2 up front, defenders who defend and wouldn't dream of trying to be too clever. Players went past others but did so at a steadier pace. They were a bit chunkier as well
.As you say, different.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
I still have my dads old ball.I saw an old Big Match special during lock down, I posted about it at the time. It was slower, teams did not retain posession anywhere near as well but blimey I loved it. No tippy tappy stuff. Balls up to the big man if no pass was on, 2 up front, defenders who defend and wouldn't dream of trying to be too clever. Players went past others but did so at a steadier pace. They were a bit chunkier as well
As you say, different.
Lace up and it weighs a ton when it’s wet.
The ball and better pitches have been the biggest difference imo.
These modern balls are like balloons and they do move a lot making keepers look foolish at times .
So I do have some sympathy with them.
That was the five pints before the game on fri night.
Some great keepers in the 70's and 80's
Banks
Shilton
Clemence
Wilson
Southall
Five to start with but you can easily double that I'd have thought
Banks
Shilton
Clemence
Wilson
Southall
Five to start with but you can easily double that I'd have thought
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Some great stuff from Liverpool tonight.
Good finishing as well.
Only disappointing thing was that kit , that’s horrible blue camouflage.
Good finishing as well.
Only disappointing thing was that kit , that’s horrible blue camouflage.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
I was a kid when clemmo was in goal, so hard to appreciate him, but he was in the team who only let 16 in in a 42 game season, and rarely made a mistake and possibly coined the phrase, "had nothing to do for 89 minutes then made a good save when he was needed". I though Grobelaar was great and under appreciated by some, He did make mistakes, but by coming for so many crosses, cut out a lot of danger that cant be measured. Brilliant entertainer as well.
Pepe Reina's first 2 seasons were great as well, Alison could be a great, also. He is hardly out of position and generally makes it look easy.
BTW Steve Nicol was a fantastic RB, as was Veggard Heggem. Phil Neal has 4 European cup winners medals though and read today that he played something like 487 games on the run, which is mad.
