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Interesting news, outside of the Euros. I think it's fair enough to get rid of it. I imagine it was intended to stop people parking the bus in the away leg and make them more attacking - but they just parked the bus at home instead mostly. Also the factor that extra time gave one team more chance to score an away goal I guess. We're probably better off without it.
They should try the golden goal I thought that was a great idea.
Home or away that’s just the luck of the draw.
 
He's there

This is Kane in a team built around their best player
Ah, you have insulted Spurs players there .. ?
So is Kane our best player?
Based on what I have seen I would have said Saka .. he made stuff happen and Grealish has potential.. all the names have been rather quiet except Henderson who ( and I am not a Liverpool fan, I just appreciate good football) gave the 2nd half some energy … I saw no one else outstanding in the last game and sadly I missed Phillips in the first game ( it would have been nice to see him flourish) .
So I find it a bit pointless building a side around one player, they should be linked units making opportunities for one another (Son and Kane were doing this at some point in the season) .. you see this with Pogba and Mbappe / DeBryne and Lukaku.. England could be so much more than one pair though.
I would say if you close out Pogba and DeBryne those teams opportunities reduce significantly.. but those teams are or have supporting midfielders that create time for Pogba and DeBryne to move and see space.
Phillips can do that for us and Henderson/mount/Bellingham can make the passes (they also need to do the dirty jobs in the mid as well)
But Sterling still doesn’t fit for me at the moment .. Sancho/Rashford/Foden/Grealish /Saka should be paired into units and if you want to keep Kane so be it .. but don’t mix and match the units get the players to have an understanding of each other’s game
 
Philips is the key to making it tick (sorry Liverpool fans, Henderson may shout a lot, but he spent more time getting in the way and just kicking it anywhere to make it looknlike he was playing forward). Make him the single pivot in midfield with a solid back three behind and let the full backs press on. There would be no need fir Rice then to allow another forward.
That would push the whole team forward in my opinion. Effectively playing 5 3 2 without the ball and 3 5 2 with it.

Or if he wants the balance to be slightly more defensive then play a proper 4141 with Philips sitting in as defensive cover.
 
Philips is the key to making it tick (sorry Liverpool fans, Henderson may shout a lot, but he spent more time getting in the way and just kicking it anywhere to make it looknlike he was playing forward). Make him the single pivot in midfield with a solid back three behind and let the full backs press on. There would be no need fir Rice then to allow another forward.
That would push the whole team forward in my opinion. Effectively playing 5 3 2 without the ball and 3 5 2 with it.

Or if he wants the balance to be slightly more defensive then play a proper 4141 with Philips sitting in as defensive cover.

I think you're in the minority in thinking the solution is Phillips rather than Rice. I agree with all that you said formation wise, just think Rice is the better holding player.

That being said, he wont change formation will he.. and I do bet he plays Hendo....
 
My predicted Gareth Southgate's 11 - I will stress, not my 11!!

Pickford
Walker
Stones
Maguire
Shaw
Rice
Henderson
Grealish (assuming Mount doesnt train for the next week)
Foden
Sterling
Kane
 
I think you're in the minority in thinking the solution is Phillips rather than Rice. I agree with all that you said formation wise, just think Rice is the better holding player.

That being said, he wont change formation will he.. and I do bet he plays Hendo....

Unfortunately, I bet he will play Hendo.

We'll have to agree to disagree on Phillips v Rice.
 
My predicted Gareth Southgate's 11 - I will stress, not my 11!!

Pickford
Walker
Stones
Maguire
Shaw
Rice
Henderson
Grealish (assuming Mount doesnt train for the next week)
Foden
Sterling
Kane

I’d swap Philips for Rice. Looking at the ‘goals for’ for a number of teams, as tight as England are, I feel extra protection is needed. Not sure Rice ticks that box as well as Philips.
 
Gareth Southgate has surprised his England squad by getting Ed Sheeran to play at the training ground

He has warned them that if they don't beat Germany, Ed will play another concert in the changing room and this time James Corden will be there too.
 
I’d swap Philips for Rice. Looking at the ‘goals for’ for a number of teams, as tight as England are, I feel extra protection is needed. Not sure Rice ticks that box as well as Philips.
I can't see Rice starting instead of Phillips. He's the only outfield player to have played every minute so far.

England’s record with Kalvin Phillips:

846 mins played
11 caps
10 starts
8 wins
2 draws
1 defeat
8 clean sheets
2 goals conceded. 1 from open play was a defensive error. The other a pen.

England have conceded 1️⃣ goal from open play and kept 8️⃣ clean sheets in over 14 hours with Kalvin Phillips on the pitch. #ENG https://t.co/GQ5qjrHy4Y
 
But Rice is the more defensive of the two isn't he? I don't think Hendo & Phillips works because they do the same job. Rice is the one who sits and defends.

I think rice is very much a main stay in the England team now, I mean Southgate was part of the process to talk him into switching nations then (unlike grealish) he was thrust into the team and hasn't really missed that many games since I believe?

I think Southgate sees him as key to what he wants to achieve .. ironically he would sit there and allow our attacking players more freedom

Yet their on the bench lol ?
 
Ah, you have insulted Spurs players there .. ?
So is Kane our best player?
Based on what I have seen I would have said Saka .. he made stuff happen and Grealish has potential.. all the names have been rather quiet except Henderson who ( and I am not a Liverpool fan, I just appreciate good football) gave the 2nd half some energy … I saw no one else outstanding in the last game and sadly I missed Phillips in the first game ( it would have been nice to see him flourish) .
So I find it a bit pointless building a side around one player, they should be linked units making opportunities for one another (Son and Kane were doing this at some point in the season) .. you see this with Pogba and Mbappe / DeBryne and Lukaku.. England could be so much more than one pair though.
I would say if you close out Pogba and DeBryne those teams opportunities reduce significantly.. but those teams are or have supporting midfielders that create time for Pogba and DeBryne to move and see space.
Phillips can do that for us and Henderson/mount/Bellingham can make the passes (they also need to do the dirty jobs in the mid as well)
But Sterling still doesn’t fit for me at the moment .. Sancho/Rashford/Foden/Grealish /Saka should be paired into units and if you want to keep Kane so be it .. but don’t mix and match the units get the players to have an understanding of each other’s game

But based on what you seen in a poorly set up side

Stats have Kane as our key player

And performances long term have him

Plus 23 goals this season in the league
 
Ah, you have insulted Spurs players there .. ?
So is Kane our best player?
Based on what I have seen I would have said Saka .. he made stuff happen and Grealish has potential.. all the names have been rather quiet except Henderson who ( and I am not a Liverpool fan, I just appreciate good football) gave the 2nd half some energy … I saw no one else outstanding in the last game and sadly I missed Phillips in the first game ( it would have been nice to see him flourish) .
So I find it a bit pointless building a side around one player, they should be linked units making opportunities for one another (Son and Kane were doing this at some point in the season) .. you see this with Pogba and Mbappe / DeBryne and Lukaku.. England could be so much more than one pair though.
I would say if you close out Pogba and DeBryne those teams opportunities reduce significantly.. but those teams are or have supporting midfielders that create time for Pogba and DeBryne to move and see space.
Phillips can do that for us and Henderson/mount/Bellingham can make the passes (they also need to do the dirty jobs in the mid as well)
But Sterling still doesn’t fit for me at the moment .. Sancho/Rashford/Foden/Grealish /Saka should be paired into units and if you want to keep Kane so be it .. but don’t mix and match the units get the players to have an understanding of each other’s game
Sorry mate but saying Saka has been our best player after one game,well I would have to question that,albeit he had a very good game.
Phillips in the first game was just as good albeit different roles.
Pickford,Stones,Mings,Maguire all have done their job well.
As for people’s view on Sterling I find it all quite extraordinary and baffling.
Sterling’s movement,his speed,his link up play,his chasing back,his 2 goals keeping us in the tournament,and people still knock him.
Whilst he certainly hasn’t played to his maximum and very best form he’s one of the first on the team sheet and I can see why.
 
Sorry mate but saying Saka has been our best player after one game,well I would have to question that,albeit he had a very good game.
Phillips in the first game was just as good albeit different roles.
Pickford,Stones,Mings,Maguire all have done their job well.
As for people’s view on Sterling I find it all quite extraordinary and baffling.
Sterling’s movement,his speed,his link up play,his chasing back,his 2 goals keeping us in the tournament,and people still knock him.
Whilst he certainly hasn’t played to his maximum and very best form he’s one of the first on the team sheet and I can see why.
Maybe put Sterling on bench to see if he comes on ready to go… but he hasn’t done any of the things you have mentioned and Saka hasn’t been given game time, so dropping him for a historical record before this tournament is a little mean and illogical.. play your best and most hungry players, not the ones taking it for granted.
Mcguire’s return was good, but Stones was good and Mings was good .. I think defensively we are fine we have enough talent to cover. But the attack needs to be freshened up, rested if you like .. 5 subs is a huge opportunity to really mix the units and keep it high paced . If your fast at the front the rear is safe, because you press early and aggressively. Then change those 3 players at half time and go again ..
 
But based on what you seen in a poorly set up side

Stats have Kane as our key player

And performances long term have him

Plus 23 goals this season in the league
But he isn’t doing it nor is he making it happen … let it go … break convention.. a mobile striker would definitely wind up the opposition defence .. and Kane isn’t doing that, maybe he will benefit after as a sub
 
But he isn’t doing it nor is he making it happen … let it go … break convention.. a mobile striker would definitely wind up the opposition defence .. and Kane isn’t doing that, maybe he will benefit after as a sub

We are in the knock out now.. the time to bench him for a rest has gone. No use benching him hoping he will be better then we go out

Vardy would be causing choas in this team
 
Maybe put Sterling on bench to see if he comes on ready to go… but he hasn’t done any of the things you have mentioned and Saka hasn’t been given game time, so dropping him for a historical record before this tournament is a little mean and illogical.. play your best and most hungry players, not the ones taking it for granted.
Mcguire’s return was good, but Stones was good and Mings was good .. I think defensively we are fine we have enough talent to cover. But the attack needs to be freshened up, rested if you like .. 5 subs is a huge opportunity to really mix the units and keep it high paced . If your fast at the front the rear is safe, because you press early and aggressively. Then change those 3 players at half time and go again ..

You don’t freshen up now when it’s knockout that should of been done before.
Obviously you didn’t see the first game.
We were poor vs Scotland and better in the last game.
Sterling will not be rested and he doesn’t look tired.
Also putting the guy who’s actually scoring goals on the bench is a ludicrous suggestion
 
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