AmandaJR
Money List Winner
Yeah. Just made me mad and sad in equal measure.
Yeah. Just made me mad and sad in equal measure.
AmandaJR
Money List Winner
I'm so close to doing just that, which saddens me.
irip
Head Pro
To be fair what I have seen of Dalot then Barry White would be an upgradeIt certainly rules out Man Utd signing Ben White as a replacement for Dalot
anotherdouble
Journeyman Pro
I bit the bullet a few years ago and so glad I did, especially when reading this thread. I still watch the occasional match of the day. I will watch EFL games and the ladies and I am sane enough not to compare. But I have found I am not really bothered. Up to 5 years ago the wife would never have got a look in when football was on the tv. Now if I am watching a game and she comes into the lounge I will switch to something we both interested in. I just don’t miss it
PaulMdj
Well-known member
I thought it was a good game, some spicy challenges, some good football. And to say it was a League/ Carabao cup game.Both teams wanted it. I was a bit surprised with Pope as he looked a bit iffy at times. The first goal at the Etihad is all important.
A rule I thought Odd. Semenyo playing even though he has already played for Bournemouth
Rule changed this season, players can play for a maximum of 2 Clubs in a competition.
Was discussed by Eddie Howe in his pre-match press conference, he said he was surprised and didn’t know about it.
However, it was Clubs who voted to agree to the change pre-season.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
One it was determined there was only 1 player between Haarland and the goal line when Semenyo touched it, the Ref was sent to the monitor to decide if Haarland was interfering with play, ie, a subjective decision!It has just been explained why Haaland was offside. Everyone is looking at the line between Haaland and the defender. However the line is between Haaland and Pope as Pope was in front of the defender. And by the letter of the law. Haaland is offside. Another However, the automated VAR line was broke so they had to do it by hand.
Now what did me re Pope playing Haaland offside. Pope made an attempt to get the ball.He misses, but inadvertently plays Haaland offside. So is Pope not interfering with play
The other point raised was. If Haaland was offside due to the ruling of Pope playing him offside and not the defender. Why was that not passed onto the crowd or tv.
He decided the defender would of got the ball had Haarland not been there.
Fair enough, but surely if Haarland isn’t there then the defender wouldn’t be there either as he’d be marking Haarland.
One it was determined there was only 1 player between Haarland and the goal line when Semenyo touched it, the Ref was sent to the monitor to decide if Haarland was interfering with play, ie, a subjective decision!
He decided the defender would of got the ball had Haarland not been there.
Fair enough, but surely if Haarland isn’t there then the defender wouldn’t be there either as he’d be marking Haarland.
Your last point is a guess. The defender may still have been there as the defender who was originally on the post moving forward. Mine’s a guess too. The VAR & the ref made the decision on what was there, not what might have been.
Personally, I thought it was a harsh decision but I understand why it was made and don’t disagree with it.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
That’s not what we were told last night, Sky said the PGMOL statement was the Ref was called to the monitor to make a subjective decision as to whether Haarland was interfering with play as he was in an offside position.
I agree he was in an offside position, but the subjective side is surely just a guess by anyone.
If they’d of said Offside…end of. No issues.
But making it whataboutery is daft.
Bit more whataboutery for you, if you see the video again, ignore the ball and watch the Man City player in the background get pulled to the ground!
Why didn’t VAR pick that up and say goal was offside, but a foul in the box before Semenyo touched it and therefore recommend a pen.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Who is Haarland? Is he a decent player? 
Swango1980
Well-known member
I would love to see the authorities scrap VAR for a single season. Just to test out manager and fan opinions after that year is out. Then decide if it should be brought back or not.
The advantages will be that decisions will be immediate, and fans and players can act with passion in the moment. And there will be no expectations that every single decision should have a black and white answer.
The negatives will be there will be some horrific onfield decisions that will cost clubs dearly. The vast majority of VAR decisions, including offside, are correct. We don't really talk about those. It'll be the one decision in a game or at a weekend that is wrong. Iften those decisions are actually subjectivem but we'll crucify it if we don't agree, cry "clear and obvious" and moan about the time taken. Occasionally there is a VAR howler that we all agree was wrong.
The advantages will be that decisions will be immediate, and fans and players can act with passion in the moment. And there will be no expectations that every single decision should have a black and white answer.
The negatives will be there will be some horrific onfield decisions that will cost clubs dearly. The vast majority of VAR decisions, including offside, are correct. We don't really talk about those. It'll be the one decision in a game or at a weekend that is wrong. Iften those decisions are actually subjectivem but we'll crucify it if we don't agree, cry "clear and obvious" and moan about the time taken. Occasionally there is a VAR howler that we all agree was wrong.
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
I can sort out VAR, it's easy. The team sitting behind monitors have 15 seconds each and they all (separately) watch the incident from a different angle. They then press a button and the majority wins. If you cannot make a decision after 15 seconds then it's not clear or obvious and the on field decision stands.
Tashyboy
Please don’t ask to see my tatts 👍
If the automated var is broke like last night, you can bet your bottom drawer the stopwatch would be broke as well
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Exactly the same for me. I haven't watched a full match in a couple of years now I don't think. I look up the scores, more for Fantasy League reasons than anything else. I'll have a look at the highlights of the Spurs game sometimes. (If there are any
) That's about it. The idea of putting a football match on for two hours just leaves me feeling cold.
