SwingsitlikeHogan
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That’s handy for the TV channels sticking in ad breaks…give the VAR a minute and that’s plenty of time
PaulMdj
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He was injured in september at the beginning of the season, still made 18 appearances and played in CL, Caraboa etc.
Apart from the injury he’d of probably been more involved and struggled to get straight back in as yous were playing so well.
Might of been better saying his was surplus and slot doesn’t rate him.
PaulMdj
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Glad if it’s introduced for Corners or any black and white decisions.
Arthur Wedge
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He was injured in september at the beginning of the season, still made 18 appearances and played in CL, Caraboa etc.
Apart from the injury he’d of probably been more involved and struggled to get straight back in as yous were playing so well.
Might of been better saying his was surplus and slot doesn’t rate him.
So he wasn’t a big part of us winning the Title
Across all comps he played 800mins
Before he was injured he was on the bench , missed 8 games and was on the bench when he came back
He is a tidy solid player , option of the bench at times , just lacks a little pace
Would do a good job at a mid to lower table team if he wanted to play week in week out
Lucifer MorningStar
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Careful using Logic that doesn’t compute with some fans on here who must always be rightHe was injured in september at the beginning of the season, still made 18 appearances and played in CL, Caraboa etc.
Apart from the injury he’d of probably been more involved and struggled to get straight back in as yous were playing so well.
Might of been better saying his was surplus and slot doesn’t rate him.
Swango1980
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If Elliot was a Liverpool player, I suspect the typical Liverpool fan would be making arguments FOR Elliot, making him sound a terrific player. If anyone else pointed out his weaknesses and the fact he didnt play much, I'm sure the typical Liverpool fan would point to injuries rather than quality being the issue.
For non Liverpool fans, based on what we have seen so far, it would be interesting to know how many would rather have Elliot than Wirtz in their squad, with the assumption both will remain fit.
For non Liverpool fans, based on what we have seen so far, it would be interesting to know how many would rather have Elliot than Wirtz in their squad, with the assumption both will remain fit.
PaulMdj
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Under Klopp 23/24 season he started 29 games and sub 5 times, total of over 50 games that season.
He was definitely looked at as an important member of the LPool squad Slot inherited.
So either Slot didn’t rate him or his injury played a part.
Going on his 23/24 form you didn’t need Wirtze.
How he’s gone from being rated by Klopp to suiting a mid to lower league team under Slot is baffling.
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Arthur Wedge
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That was two seasons ago under a different manager
We had better players for the midfield last year with the manager preferring the likes of Gravenburch
Think it worked out well
Yet he spent most of it on the bench in a season the team won the league
What was so stellar about his form in 23/24
In the 11 games he started in the league 7 came during the later stages of the season after injuries to players , his first start in the league didn’t come until Boxing Day
So it seems he was rated the same by Klopp - a squad player at best
Pin-seeker
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I seem to remember it being questioned why Elliot wasn’t in the England squad,even tho he couldn’t get a game for Liverpool
PaulMdj
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That was two seasons ago under a different manager
Probably why I said under Klopp.
We had better players for the midfield last year with the manager preferring the likes of Gravenburch
As I again said, not rated by Slot or injury impacted
Think it worked out well
So ever present for Klopp in his last 2 seasons and rarely not used, to be in Slot’s squad (minus injury) and spent double the time warming the bench.
clubchamp98
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Need a timekeeper!
Arthur Wedge
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“Ever present” ?
Some one sitting on the bench and getting sub appearances for 2/3rds of the season is not “ever present”
That was no diffrent to last season when he spent the majority of the season on the bench
It’s very clear the last two managers didn’t see him as a regular starting playing in the Prem and CL hence why when he was looking to move on his options were limited to Villa and RB Leipzig
Elliot is a decent player , will be a good signing for someone
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clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Big Sam’s stats as England manager is 100%.
Is he really the best we have ever had ?
Stats can tell you anything.
But footy is played on grass not paper.
Elliot played in a very good team Wirtz is playing in a struggling one .
Wirtz is a better player imo.
irip
Head Pro
I can see Elliott being stuck at Liverpool.
He isn’t good enough or done enough for a bigger club to come in for him and can’t see a lower side willing to take a gamble on him for the money Liverpool want.
Think he is an ok player but no more, always looks very lightweight to me and Salah is better in a tackle.
He also lacks a bit of pace but is decent enough with the ball and appears to have a good attitude.
Still young enough to improve though but needs to be playing regularly now.
He can’t play for anyone else this season so another loan deal is off the table so looking like this will be another wasted season for him.
He isn’t good enough or done enough for a bigger club to come in for him and can’t see a lower side willing to take a gamble on him for the money Liverpool want.
Think he is an ok player but no more, always looks very lightweight to me and Salah is better in a tackle.
He also lacks a bit of pace but is decent enough with the ball and appears to have a good attitude.
Still young enough to improve though but needs to be playing regularly now.
He can’t play for anyone else this season so another loan deal is off the table so looking like this will be another wasted season for him.
Arthur Wedge
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Hopefully he comes back and is there as a squad player for the rest of the season
Hindsight is great but i bet he wished he went to Leipzig now but he wanted to stay in the Prem
£35mil seems a decent price for him
irip
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A decent price for Liverpool maybe but asking for it and getting it is two different things.
I don’t think a club would take a gamble on a player who has hardly played for at least 2 seasons and at most has been a bit part player before that at that price.
I can see him going out on loans until his contract expires or Liverpool half that price
Swinglowandslow
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Celtic Rangers…..what a watch this is!!!
Arthur Wedge
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Villa playing well again - two very good goals
Swango1980
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That was pathetic by Forest's goalkeeper. Absolutely idiotic
Arthur Wedge
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Well no idea what the GK was doing there , Forest managed to get back into the game
