Swango1980
Well-known member
VAR is continuing the kill football.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Embarrassing
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
That can’t be given surely! VAR is becoming farcical
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
So Pedro hand away from the body and stokes his hand is ok, but the player jumping whose arms can’t go anywhere else is handball.
Ref has lost control and VAR is officially worthless.
Ref has lost control and VAR is officially worthless.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
If Silva goes mad and gets sent to the stands I wouldn’t blame him , he is being cheated out of this
Swango1980
Well-known member
I'm wondering if a day will come that a manager orders his players to leave the pitch? I know you shouldn't, but I also think a lot of fans would sympathise
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Very difficult to play against 13 men.!
Embarrassing from VAR the handball rule it two tiered.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Well if there was ever a justified day!
This is it.
Can’t wait for Howard Webbs opinion.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Maybe managers need to to show it up.
Don’t hold back in the interview either.
They just get banned where the worst man on the pitch will be fine!
Swango1980
Well-known member
I didnt see the first half. But from many different sources, the general opinion has been it was a horrific decision. Not heard anyone support it.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Only a ref could think that was a careless challenge!
He done him for skill and Chelsea player pulled out of the challenge imo
Swango1980
Well-known member
Maybe a classic case of VAR looking at something far too many times, and finding a reason to eventually convince themselves they should get involved.
Then the ref feeling he must change his mind, because otherwise why would his peers question the original decision if they didnt think he was wrong.
VAR just doesn't work in so many cases. If it is used (penalties and red cards) I still think it should be at the request of the manager, they get one call per half (and keep it until their call is deemed wrong)
nickjdavis
Head Pro
...was out but heard the stramache about the disallowed goal amongst pundits on the radio so just had a look for myself....utterly laughable.
The penalty wasnt much better given that Pedro appeared to be juggling the ball and then a Chelsea forward stood on the toe of the Fulham defender....only problem was the Fulham defender just hopped briefly in pain instead of going down and writhing around like an eel.
The penalty wasnt much better given that Pedro appeared to be juggling the ball and then a Chelsea forward stood on the toe of the Fulham defender....only problem was the Fulham defender just hopped briefly in pain instead of going down and writhing around like an eel.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
The ref makes the decision at the end of the day!
VAR can show him the footage just like we saw.
But he has the last decision and it’s totally on him.
How he didn’t see the handball
but a careless challenge shocking !He will be in Division one next week if his assessor tells the whole truth in his report!
Swango1980
Well-known member
Yeah, the ref shares a lot of the responsibility.The ref makes the decision at the end of the day!
VAR can show him the footage just like we saw.
But he has the last decision and it’s totally on him.
How he didn’t see the handball
He will be in Division one next week if his assessor tells the whole truth in his report!
But when VAR intervenes, they don't do so by saying "we completely agree with your original decision, but go and spend 2 or 3 minutes to review it anyway"
The VAR thinks the original decision is likely wrong. So many decisions are subjective. So it can be easy to find cases for either decision, especially when your peers are influencing your thinking by suggesting your original decision is incorrect. Even if you are 95% certain, that 5% of doubt can become a huge factor when someone else has pushed you into that line of thinking
I think VAR should be focusing on all the reasons the original decision is correct, not finding a reason why it might be wrong. And, if they struggle to find a reason why the original decision is correct, then intervene
nickjdavis
Head Pro
Neither Wissa nor Strand Larsen are in their respective matchday squads this afternoon.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Ref gives a penalty Man Utd. VAR spending an absolute age to check if there is a reason not to give it
Swango1980
Well-known member
Ref asked to review, and after watching it about 25 times, decides not to give the penalty
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Correct decision
Swango1980
Well-known member
The VAR review took 5.5 minutes.
