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That’s the first time I have seen utd play anything like they could and should. 3rd and 4 th is getting interesting with the door slowly opening for Liverpool.
 
Didn’t watch the match played golf instead having just read the match report glad I didn’t watch as it panned out as I expected.

Hopefully Levy will see sense and get rid of Jose when we loose to City
 
Orikoru said:
Bloody fantastic decision.
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I’ve said it a few times, but the decision to appoint Mourinho was a really odd one. His CV, whilst including undoubted successes, is littered with acrimonious fallings out with players and clubs.

I still vividly recall leaving Wembley back in 2016 after United had won the FA Cup, and listening to the news breaking on 606 that LVG was out and Mourinho was lined up as his successor. My lad, aged 12 at the time, was chuffed to bits. My heart was sinking.

I said to him that if he thought football was dull under LVG, and it was desperately poor, then he really would be bored senseless by Mourinho’s tactics. And so it turned out. Sure, he won a trophy or two, but no real building for the future, and I knew he would eventually leave us no better off and with broken relationships in his wake. That’s exactly how it turned out.

When Spurs went for him I was stunned. I said back then there would be a honeymoon period during which he was all smiles, but that within 18 months he’d be turning on his players in public when they failed to sit on a 1-0 lead. And look where we are now.

A great coach back in the day. But a very poor manager. He’ll be gone before Christmas and I will eat my golf socks if another Premier League club ever appoints him.

And if you’d ever seen my golf socks make their own way to the laundry basket you’d know what a shout that is.
 
Billysboots said:
I’ve said it a few times, but the decision to appoint Mourinho was a really odd one. His CV, whilst including undoubted successes, is littered with acrimonious fallings out with players and clubs.

I still vividly recall leaving Wembley back in 2016 after United had won the FA Cup, and listening to the news breaking on 606 that LVG was out and Mourinho was lined up as his successor. My lad, aged 12 at the time, was chuffed to bits. My heart was sinking.

I said to him that if he thought football was dull under LVG, and it was desperately poor, then he really would be bored senseless by Mourinho’s tactics. And so it turned out. Sure, he won a trophy or two, but no real building for the future, and I knew he would eventually leave us no better off and with broken relationships in his wake. That’s exactly how it turned out.

When Spurs went for him I was stunned. I said back then there would be a honeymoon period during which he was all smiles, but that within 18 months he’d be turning on his players in public when they failed to sit on a 1-0 lead. And look where we are now.

A great coach back in the day. But a very poor manager. He’ll be gone before Christmas and I will eat my golf socks if another Premier League club ever appoints him.

And if you’d ever seen my golf socks make their own way to the laundry basket you’d know what a shout that is.
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Personally I don't care about style if we win. Winning is fun. The fans who care more about style seem to be the fans who have seen their club win stuff already. Spurs is a club massively overdue trophies, so appointing a guy who is known for winning trophies everywhere he's been is not an odd decision at all, it's a no-brainer. His style is not unfortunate for us because it's dull, it's unfortunate because it doesn't work unless you have top class defenders (we don't, at all), and he's completely unwilling to be flexible and try something else. So we will lose the cup final, we will finish 7th in the league and miss Europe entirely, and then he will be sacked. And potentially Kane will be off.
 
Orikoru said:
Personally I don't care about style if we win. Winning is fun. The fans who care more about style seem to be the fans who have seen their club win stuff already. Spurs is a club massively overdue trophies, so appointing a guy who is known for winning trophies everywhere he's been is not an odd decision at all, it's a no-brainer. His style is not unfortunate for us because it's dull, it's unfortunate because it doesn't work unless you have top class defenders (we don't, at all), and he's completely unwilling to be flexible and try something else. So we will lose the cup final, we will finish 7th in the league and miss Europe entirely, and then he will be sacked. And potentially Kane will be off.
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Excellent post. I hadn’t really considered it from the perspective of a club overdue success, so in that respect the decision perhaps makes more sense.

But I do think there is a lot of merit in the words “What price success?”. United needed a trophy in the years after Ferguson finished, for entirely different reasons to Spurs. And whilst the Europa League win against Ajax in itself was welcome, there was always an underlying knowledge that it was achieved under a manager who is only ever interested in short term success.

So whilst a trophy for Spurs under Mourinho would be welcome, if the bigger picture is one of a club going backwards I do still question whether he’s a manager you would want to stick with.
 
Billysboots said:
Excellent post. I hadn’t really considered it from the perspective of a club overdue success, so in that respect the decision perhaps makes more sense.

But I do think there is a lot of merit in the words “What price success?”. United needed a trophy in the years after Ferguson finished, for entirely different reasons to Spurs. And whilst the Europa League win against Ajax in itself was welcome, there was always an underlying knowledge that it was achieved under a manager who is only ever interested in short term success.

So whilst a trophy for Spurs under Mourinho would be welcome, if the bigger picture is one of a club going backwards I do still question whether he’s a manager you would want to stick with.
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Well not now! It clearly hasn't worked! Haha. I've no idea where we go next though.
 
Billysboots said:
I think Brendan Rodgers would be a great fit at Spurs. But if Leicester finish top four I can’t see him leaving the King Power.
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I'd class Brendan Rodgers as an elite manager, what he's done at Leicester has been superb.
I think I'd take him over anybody if Ole was to leave United.
He's far superior to Mourinho, far superior.
 
Slime said:
I'd class Brendan Rodgers as an elite manager, what he's done at Leicester has been superb.
I think I'd take him over anybody if Ole was to leave United.
He's far superior to Mourinho, far superior.
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An Elite manager ?

Surely to be an “elite manager” would need to include winning major trophies ?

I suspect Rodgers is another manager who is comfortable at clubs just below the top level who don’t have that much pressure and can provide a few surprises to over achieve
 
Liverpoolphil said:
An Elite manager ?

Surely to be an “elite manager” would need to include winning major trophies ?

I suspect Rodgers is another manager who is comfortable at clubs just below the top level who don’t have that much pressure and can provide a few surprises to over achieve
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Like he was at Liverpool?
 
City have taken the League cup serious since Pep turned up. Stating it’s a trophy. Yet the amount of times I have read “yeah but it’s not a Major trophy, Nothing to get excited about”. Yet now I get the impression it’s a massive trophy if Spurs were to win it. ?
 
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