The Footie Thread

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[SteveW86]

Doesn’t look good for Hayden.

Good goal by Brighton, but Newcastle looked like they had lost concentration

 

[Tashyboy]

That welbeck looks a tasty prospect at Brighton ?

 

[Jensen]

That welbeck looks a tasty prospect at Brighton ?

Unlike Joelinton.....club record signing!
Makes no effort and has very limited ability

 

[4LEX]

That welbeck looks a tasty prospect at Brighton ?

Almost as good as the Utd wonderkids - Lingard at 28 and Martial 26. Bright prospects for the future for sure.

Steve Bruce.....words fail me how someone so bad can keep getting good jobs. Newcastle are going down unless they wield the axe.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Unlike Joelinton.....club record signing!
Makes no effort and has very limited ability

I think you are being kind there. The bizarre thing with him is there was nothing in his stats when he signed that suggested he was worth buying. It's a bit reminiscent of a signing from the Dennis Wise era, remember what went on then?

 

[MegaSteve]

Almost as good as the Utd wonderkids - Lingard at 28 and Martial 26. Bright prospects for the future for sure.

Steve Bruce.....words fail me how someone so bad can keep getting good jobs. Newcastle are going down unless they wield the axe.

Not quite sure how being a manager at Newcastle, in current times, equates to being a "good job" ...

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Not quite sure how being a manager at Newcastle, in current times, equates to being a "good job" ...

It does come with an estimated salary of £2.75m. Not necessarily a good job but it is a good wage. Not sure he has earned it.

 

[Trojan615]

Not quite sure how being a manager at Newcastle, in current times, equates to being a "good job" ...

and a quick payoff and handshake when Ashley finally sells ....

 

[MegaSteve]

It does come with an estimated salary of £2.75m. Not necessarily a good job but it is a good wage. Not sure he has earned it.

Compared to Jose [for example] that's a menial salary for doing, more or less, the same job...

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Compared to Jose [for example] that's a menial salary for doing, more or less, the same job...

I'll have it. It's still a crazy amount of money. We get blinded to figures in football but think about it, it's mad.

 

[MegaSteve]

I'll have it. It's still a crazy amount of money. We get blinded to figures in football but think about it, it's mad.

I think we'd all like a slice of the pie that to 'regular' folk is the madness of the prem...

 

[Jensen]

I think you are being kind there. The bizarre thing with him is there was nothing in his stats when he signed that suggested he was worth buying. It's a bit reminiscent of a signing from the Dennis Wise era, remember what went on then?

They’ve done a Sunderland, remember the Milton Nunez farce

 

[Billysboots]

God knows what excuse he can give for this. The players aren't doing it for him. He's got to go. No Champion's League. Sadly I think they'll give him until the League Cup final which is another month away before we get battered in that. He's meant to be this defensive genius of a coach, but he claims it's not his instructions that make us sit back, and we can't defend anyway. Clearly he only achieved his previous defensive records buy bringing in the right personnel. Or if he had the coaching ability, he must not have it anymore. Once we sack him that'll be his career over pretty much. No other bigger club will want him.

The sad thing is that Levy could have prevented this by not appointing Mourinho in the first place - he must have known what the outcome would be, because it’s happened time and again.

Mourinho in his day was a fine coach, but an appalling manager. He has no idea how to manage people. Luke Shaw pre-Mourinho was a star in the making. Then Jose threw him under the bus, in public. Along comes Solskjaer, throws an arm around Shaw’s shoulders, and all of a sudden you have the best left back in the country. That one player typifies where Mourinho gets in wrong, and he never learns.

When things start to turn sour at a club, he starts to distance himself from the players, who are always the problem. Never him. He loses every dressing room he works with.

Every football fan could have written the Spurs script. If we could see it, why couldn’t Levy?

 

[clubchamp98]

The sad thing is that Levy could have prevented this by not appointing Mourinho in the first place - he must have known what the outcome would be, because it’s happened time and again.

Mourinho in his day was a fine coach, but an appalling manager. He has no idea how to manage people. Luke Shaw pre-Mourinho was a star in the making. Then Jose threw him under the bus, in public. Along comes Solskjaer, throws an arm around Shaw’s shoulders, and all of a sudden you have the best left back in the country. That one player typifies where Mourinho gets in wrong, and he never learns.

When things start to turn sour at a club, he starts to distance himself from the players, who are always the problem. Never him. He loses every dressing room he works with.

Every football fan could have written the Spurs script. If we could see it, why couldn’t Levy?

Agreed except the left back bit.
Robertson is the best in the country imo.

 

[Billysboots]

Agreed except the left back bit.
Robertson is the best in the country imo.

Sorry, I meant English left back ?

 

[clubchamp98]

Sorry, I meant English left back ?

Yes I agree.

 

[Tashyboy]

Dont forget Mendy ?

 

[AmandaJR]

Dont forget Mendy ?

 

[Orikoru]

The sad thing is that Levy could have prevented this by not appointing Mourinho in the first place - he must have known what the outcome would be, because it’s happened time and again.

Mourinho in his day was a fine coach, but an appalling manager. He has no idea how to manage people. Luke Shaw pre-Mourinho was a star in the making. Then Jose threw him under the bus, in public. Along comes Solskjaer, throws an arm around Shaw’s shoulders, and all of a sudden you have the best left back in the country. That one player typifies where Mourinho gets in wrong, and he never learns.

When things start to turn sour at a club, he starts to distance himself from the players, who are always the problem. Never him. He loses every dressing room he works with.

Every football fan could have written the Spurs script. If we could see it, why couldn’t Levy?

My theory is just that he's too stubborn to change his style based on the players he had. He got this reputation as a brilliant defensive manager who wins 1-0 all the time, but he was always able to build on players like Carvalho, John Terry, Makelele. You can't rely on clean sheets when you have Davinson Sanchez, Eric Dier, Serge Aurier... But it's like José's mindset is "my approach works and it will again". If we'd have bought some top centre back for him it might have been better, but we're not a club that can throw money around like his previous ones. It's just a mismatch of club and manager I think, and he's past the point of no return. We have a superb attack but they know they have to score 2 or 3 off about 5 chances at times to win a game and it's not sustainable.

You can argue the man management thing, but then I think Dele deserved to be out in the cold because he was pants for the previous year, plus easing in Bale slowing actually seemed to work as he suddenly hit some form. So I'm not sure if any players can feel hard done by in that respect. I just think it's too much to expect this defence to keep clean sheets, and the forwards to score 70% of their chances, and they're all jaded because of it.