Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Agreed,they’re still 2nd favourites tho.
That's meaningless though, it's like quoting a league table based on xg, or some other stat. France are not playing well, Portugal have a strong team, including a strong bench that Martinez doesn't use. France were there for the taking, he blew it.
Spain have been the standout team for me so far, but England and France, whilst not playing well have got a great chance as well.
Fatigue has definitely played a part in this tournament, teams just look jaded after a hard season.
Still think England will go on and win it.
Fatigue has definitely played a part in this tournament, teams just look jaded after a hard season.
Still think England will go on and win it.
larmen
Head Pro
He was always a danger … until the edge of the box. Then he tried a sneaky pass to Mbappe and the chance was gone.
Mbappe must be the French word for Harvertz.
Backache
Assistant Pro
Is Dembele the French word for Werner?
larmen
Head Pro
Werner is actually quite good, but one of the long line of players that worked amazing in the Bundesliga but it didn’t click in the PL.
Obviously, Mbappe is quite a bit better than Harvertz, or anyone else in the tournament. It just doesn’t glow for him. Maybe it’s the nose, maybe it’s the expectations.
Harvertz however had some great opportunities in the tournament. Free run on goal against Denmark, chip on a fairly open goal against Spain, … . I just cannot work out how Arsenal didn’t win the league last season.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Looking at the options they have on the bench and not used is an embarrassment of riches
Neto
Ramos
Jota
All three with a case of being in the starting 11
And then taking off Fernandes who was actually playing well compared to Ronaldo who was annoymous again
Santos made the call to drop him
Ronaldo 'blanked' last Portugal coach to drop him before Roberto Martinez
Cristiano Ronaldo didn't take kindly to being dropped by ex-Portugal boss Fernando Santos during the 2022 World Cup which seemed to cause irreparable damage to their relationship
www.mirror.co.uk
And the result for the match was a 6-1 thrashing of Switzerland
But shows the lack of backbone from Martinez to bring him back and then to not even sub him
They should have been far too strong for a poor French side
See the England fans out there acted with grace towards the German fans when they get knocked out
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Arthur Wedge
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It’s the perfect role for him but there is no chance Southgate drops a favourite player of his
But it does sum up his mindset
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Max Kilman: West Ham sign Wolves defender for £40m
Max Kilman is reunited with West Ham manager Julen Lopetegui, who made him skipper while in charge at Molineux.
www.bbc.co.uk
Our 3rd signing even, forgot we signed wes foderingham from Sheffield United as our 3rd choice keeper
Not bad work thus far .. a young attacking player as a prospect , an experienced goal keeper to back up and a proven premier league centre back
Glad it's confirmed now
Still more incoming, the next rumoured is Kyle walker peters with downes going the other way
sunshine
Well-known member
3 goals in 5 games. 2 own goals and a penalty. Team with world class attacking players yet looking negative and defensive.
Is the French media going mental for Deschamps to be sacked?
Do we grudgingly admire their ability to grind out a result?
We should look at Southgate and England with the same lens.
4LEX
Well-known member
He's been getting stick for years for negative football, the difference is he's got a trophy to back it up. We've got nothing.
England have a stronger midfield and attack too, France are carried by Mbappe.
That said France have still looked better than we have and actually have a plan for their style, we just look like 11 strangers thrown together passing backwards and sideways in slow motion before launching a long diagonal to Saka.
4LEX
Well-known member
Crazy he was playing for Marlow Town a few years back.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Trippier starts 
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
good old Southgate - only one change because of the suspensionActually glad that TAA doesn’t have anything to do with it anymore , he can come back well rested for pre season - he finally uses a system to get the best out of him and has him on the bench
nickjdavis
Head Pro
Nothing wrong with Trippier starting....just that he shouldnt be on the left.
Cant see that Southgate has learned anything from the previous 4 games....Switzerland must be delighted.
Cant see that Southgate has learned anything from the previous 4 games....Switzerland must be delighted.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
Southgate you genius 
I despair. Genuinely I do.
What have Gordon and Palmer, in particular, got to do to get a start? Has Southgate not been watching along with the rest of us?
What have Gordon and Palmer, in particular, got to do to get a start? Has Southgate not been watching along with the rest of us?
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Southgate is loyal to players and I believe doesn’t really know how to change things up - he is tactically inept
Saka has been awful. Rice has been bang average. Foden has been dreadful. Trippier has been shocking. Kane has been virtually anonymous.
What a pity we don’t have a squad of 26 players to choose from.
Oh, hang on a sec…………
nickjdavis
Head Pro
Watch us now go and play like Brazil.
