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That's that theory gone then 😄. Presumably the refs association or PL will confirm at some point what happened then.
Think pep has come out and said he blew for the foul but play continued so he blew again

Either way his half hearted hand gestures weren't up to standard.. looked like play on

I don't think any of our refs are fit for purpose ATM but problem is the level below are they going to be just as bad?
 
Ahh, OK. There is no rule for this situation, so officials can just make it up as they please.

I guess watching hundreds of games has given you this fantastic knowledge of the rules :)
Are you for real?

You've claimed, and i quote exact word for word below
Easy

Turns out he was offside, you give the free kick as it turns out there was no advantage. Exactly as he would have done had he been miles offside and flag went up.
This situation has never happened. If a goal is scored and overruled for offside by VAR, then the game is restarted with a freekick for offside for the opposing side (Spurs in this case). It never goes back for a freekick where the advantage was played from for attcking side (City in this case)
 
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It was an absolute shocker from the ref, there’s no getting away from that.

Massive moment in the game wrongly called by the official

Surprised he didn't give that soft pen at the end to make up for his mistake
 
Are you for real?

You've claimed, and i quote exact word for word below

This situation has never happened. If a goal is scored and overruled for offside by VAR, then the game is restarted with a freekick for offside for the opposing side (Spurs in this case). It never goes back for a freekick where the advantage was played from for attcking side (City in this case)
I've already explained why you haven't seem this, it would be hugely rare.

First, you need an Advantage situation, which are not frequent.

Second, you need the team with Advantage to have a player offside just a few seconds after the foul.

Third you need an attacking player to pass it to the offside player a few seconds after the foul (pretty much the next touch after foul needs to be that pass)

Fourth, you need linesman to miss the offside, so it goes to VAR.

Those 4 things happening in a few seconds will be incredibly rare. So unless you can recall this exact thing happening, you have no experience to call upon.

So, you need to then go to rule book and find where is says you proceed one way if onfield officials give a call, but a completely different call if VAR gives it.
 
Massive moment in the game wrongly called by the official

Surprised he didn't give that soft pen at the end to make up for his mistake
Trouble is though as Neville said, City got one v Utd earlier in the season and it was soft. Never a penalty. Every week we end up talking about the rules, VAR and officials. Like F1 I am seriously losing interest.
 
Think pep has come out and said he blew for the foul but play continued so he blew again

Either way his half hearted hand gestures weren't up to standard.. looked like play on

I don't think any of our refs are fit for purpose ATM but problem is the level below are they going to be just as bad?
Sounds like a convenient excuse. His body language clearly looked like he was consciously signalling to play advantage. It definitely wasn't a hand gesture that was saying "blooming hell, I tried blowing my whistle but it made no sound, wait wait wait, let me try again" :)
 
Sounds like a convenient excuse. His body language clearly looked like he was consciously signalling to play advantage. It definitely wasn't a hand gesture that was saying "blooming hell, I tried blowing my whistle but it made no sound, wait wait wait, let me try again" :)

To be fair the more I see back the more I doubt grealish would finish it anyways, I think the last defender had him covered just about

However the ref has now made it a moment

Taken the shine off a cracking game
 
Think pep has come out and said he blew for the foul but play continued so he blew again

Either way his half hearted hand gestures weren't up to standard.. looked like play on

I don't think any of our refs are fit for purpose ATM but problem is the level below are they going to be just as bad?
This would make the most sense to me. I've only seen the incident in a clip on Twitter but it appears that the ref points with one arm/hand which is normally the signal for a free kick. For an advantage they signal with both arms/hands.

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The signal certainly looked more like the former than the latter. Although I have just looked at the rules and it says advantage can be signalled with "one or both arms at shoulder height" so it comes down to where his arm was.
 
This would make the most sense to me. I've only seen the incident in a clip on Twitter but it appears that the ref points with one arm/hand which is normally the signal for a free kick. For an advantage they signal with both arms/hands.

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The signal certainly looked more like the former than the latter. Although I have just looked at the rules and it says advantage can be signalled with "one or both arms at shoulder height" so it comes down to where his arm was.

Once again the situation comes down to poor communication from the officials. We heard the var audio for the Liverpool game.. slap dash and unprofessional

This is just another example of half hearted officiating
 
Slight overreaction from City I think. Who's to say Grealish would have scored? His finishing isn't the most consistent. Royal probably outpaces him and then fouls him on the edge of the box if anything. If it was Haaland through on goal then different story. They were just angry that they always struggle to beat us for some reason.
 
Slight overreaction from City I think. Who's to say Grealish would have scored? His finishing isn't the most consistent. Royal probably outpaces him and then fouls him on the edge of the box if anything. If it was Haaland through on goal then different story. They were just angry that they always struggle to beat us for some reason.
The over reaction is nothing to do with whether Grealish would have scored or not, it was to do with a referees decision. In the situation of Grealish being clear through. There was only Two options.
Grealish scored.
Grealish didn’t score.
The referee came up with a third option.
I thought the game was a scruffy affair. Probably exciting for the neutral. But that incident with the ref if it had been allowed to continue with Grealish being through would have been a pivotal moment for the game and possibly the title race. For both clubs. Just to pick up on your second point. Haaland had one of those days yesterday where he couldn’t hit a barn door. Grealish had one chance and scored.
 
Has anyone got any other angles on it? I've seen a clip from side on only. Is it possible that the ref didn't/couldn't see Grealish and only saw three Spurs defenders running back and thought there was no advantage?
 
The over reaction is nothing to do with whether Grealish would have scored or not, it was to do with a referees decision. In the situation of Grealish being clear through. There was only Two options.
Grealish scored.
Grealish didn’t score.
The referee came up with a third option.
I thought the game was a scruffy affair. Probably exciting for the neutral. But that incident with the ref if it had been allowed to continue with Grealish being through would have been a pivotal moment for the game and possibly the title race. For both clubs. Just to pick up on your second point. Haaland had one of those days yesterday where he couldn’t hit a barn door. Grealish had one chance and scored.
It's just a split-second judgement call whether to play the advantage or not. It's not even a decision issue, because there was a foul, so the decision he got correct. He possibly should have played advantage but he chose not to. Oh well. Plenty of worse calls have happened this season, that's not even in the top ten.

City hit the woodwork a few times, arguably should have been 4-1 up at half time. That's why you've not won the game. Easier to blame the ref though of course.
 
Has anyone got any other angles on it? I've seen a clip from side on only. Is it possible that the ref didn't/couldn't see Grealish and only saw three Spurs defenders running back and thought there was no advantage?
He should not be reffing if he can’t see a striker in a strikers role.

If he couldn’t ,Just play on until the keeper gets the ball then bring it back.

Possibly the worst ref you could put in charge of a big game.
 
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