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The Footie Thread

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Soooooo 2-1 to the Villa.

Cracking game, end to end, spurs look solid and they had multiple starting players out injured, I think they’ve got enough to stay up.

We go up to 4th and move on to a big game in Europe on Thursday.

UTV
 
Couldn't care less who won or lost but it looked like a dive to me, real time and slowed down for VAR.
Funny how his left leg moved out towards Ashley Young as he threw himself to the ground. Young was stupidly clumsy to offer Martial the chance to generate a penalty though.
 
clubchamp98 said:
What was the ref looking at though.
He had a perfect view so how did he get it so wrong that he had to change his mind.?
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I don't know. Young put his leg out, but it was all so quick and it was a subtle leg out.

Ref might have seen Martial go past, and then felt he either fell without contact, or ironically did an Ashley Young and put his left leg out to kick a static Young and try to buy a penalty

I was looking right at it, from a good camera down angle, and wasn't 100% sure it was a penalty. Only when I saw the replay, I saw Young stuck his leg out and clipped him.

Refereeing isn't an easy job, especially when players are always trying to con them. At times the referee has to make a decision one way or another, and won't be 100% either way.
 
Swango1980 said:
I don't know. Young put his leg out, but it was all so quick and it was a subtle leg out.

Ref might have seen Martial go past, and then felt he either fell without contact, or ironically did an Ashley Young and put his left leg out to kick a static Young and try to buy a penalty

I was looking right at it, from a good camera down angle, and wasn't 100% sure it was a penalty. Only when I saw the replay, I saw Young stuck his leg out and clipped him.

Refereeing isn't an easy job, especially when players are always trying to con them. At times the referee has to make a decision one way or another, and won't be 100% either way.
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Yes ! but You can understand the players questioning these bad calls.
Obviously it’s the way you ask.
But I can’t help but think the refs are covering their own backs by booking players for asking!

To book him he has to see him dive but he didn’t!
 
clubchamp98 said:
Yes ! but You can understand the players questioning these bad calls.
Obviously it’s the way you ask.
But I can’t help but think the refs are covering their own backs by booking players for asking!

To book him he has to see him dive but he didn’t!
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He had a call to make. Penalty or no penalty. If he goes for no penalty, then he needs to decide what caused Martial to fall over.

Had it not been a penalty and his instinct was correct, he'd have been slated for not giving a yellow card for a dive.
 
Swango1980 said:
Given that both penalties were soft, subjective decisions can even feel subjective for same person. He may have just been borderline for the first one, and edged on side of giving it. Second one, borderline again but edged on side it was OK. Also, from his angle they may have been very different. First one was after set piece I think, and he may have been paying extra attention to any sort of wrestling. Second one might have happened so quick and looked OK.

Bit like me driving. Sometimes when waiting to give way, I may drive out into a smallish gap. At next junction I may refuse a gap, even if it was bigger. I've no explanation why I exhibit this inconsistency, I just put it down to human decision making.

BTW. I'm surprised Taylor is England's no. 1 referee. I had it in my head it was Michael Oliver.
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I was surprised as well.

For what it’s worth, I wholeheartedly agree with him sending off Dunk if what he said is accurate. Whether you think it or not as a player or fan, you can’t speak to an official like that.
 
Hogieefc said:
Crowd funding raised £40000 so nothing to do with the club
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The club may not have paid for them, and may not been directly involved in their distribution - but it must have been with the club's tacit agreement. It just isn't credible/possible to deliver to and distribute 38000 leaflets at a football ground without the club being aware of it. On the other hand, does it matter if the club were aware of it.

Although I doubt the club were very happy with the use of the word 'corrupt' on it - poking a wasps' nest with a stick is never a good idea.
 
Just read a piece about Darwin Nunez, apparently he has just played his 60th game for Liverpool so they have had to pay another £8.5 million to Benfica. So how long before he fulfils his potential. According to Wikipedia he has scored 13 goals. Is that right 🤔
 
backwoodsman said:
The club may not have paid for them, and may not been directly involved in their distribution - but it must have been with the club's tacit agreement. It just isn't credible/possible to deliver to and distribute 38000 leaflets at a football ground without the club being aware of it. On the other hand, does it matter if the club were aware of it.

Although I doubt the club were very happy with the use of the word 'corrupt' on it - poking a wasps' nest with a stick is never a good idea.
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The club were obviously aware of it but powerless to do anything about it, they were distributed all around the ground on street corners leading to the ground and outside pubs etc.
 
backwoodsman said:
The club may not have paid for them, and may not been directly involved in their distribution - but it must have been with the club's tacit agreement. It just isn't credible/possible to deliver to and distribute 38000 leaflets at a football ground without the club being aware of it. On the other hand, does it matter if the club were aware of it.

Although I doubt the club were very happy with the use of the word 'corrupt' on it - poking a wasps' nest with a stick is never a good idea.
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Have fans, in the past, not managed to get mass distribution of items to a ground to protest against owners. Scarves maybe, or flags/banners? The owners and club may well be aware of it, and certainly not happy about it, but they don't stop it happening.

Surely the Everton fans could easily get these cards delivered to somewhere outside the ground, and then just hand them over to fans as they walk past. I'm not sure exactly what Everton could do about it, even if they knew?
 
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