You just throw around misconceptions for click bait and hope it works I think.How do you 'deny' someone a hat trick anyway? Hypnotise him to forget he scored three goals?
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The talk on Talksport this morning was all about Chelsea and the situation since Boehly came in
There was suggestions that Pochettino has until the end of October or he could be gone
They also mentioned a story from a meeting with Tuchel and Boehly - Boehly asked what formation Tuchel preferred with him saying ā4-3-3ā - Boehly apparently replied that maybe he should use 4-4-3
- Tuchel brought it up with the players the next day to laugh at it with all the players - two days later Tuchel was sacked
If Pochettino does goes who can they bring in next ?
Over Ā£1bn spent in 12 months and right now with the teams fighting relegation- I know it was said in jest but they are lucky right now that there are 3 teams far worse
Is there a worse run club in Prem football right now and is it down to Boehly.
There was suggestions that Pochettino has until the end of October or he could be gone
They also mentioned a story from a meeting with Tuchel and Boehly - Boehly asked what formation Tuchel preferred with him saying ā4-3-3ā - Boehly apparently replied that maybe he should use 4-4-3
- Tuchel brought it up with the players the next day to laugh at it with all the players - two days later Tuchel was sacked If Pochettino does goes who can they bring in next ?
Over Ā£1bn spent in 12 months and right now with the teams fighting relegation- I know it was said in jest but they are lucky right now that there are 3 teams far worse
Is there a worse run club in Prem football right now and is it down to Boehly.
Orikoru
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Would be laughable to sack Poch now, but you wouldn't put it past them. By most accounts they're not actually playing badly, they just can't score goals because they don't have an out-and-out striker. Jackson hasn't hit the ground running, and doesn't have the record of a prolific goalscorer at his previous clubs or internationally either, so a bit of a strange purchase really. They'd have been better off giving Lukaku another chance in my opinion. Seems daft that they've loaned out a guy who's one of the top international scorers of all time, only to struggle to put the ball in the net every week. I wonder whether Poch had a say in it or not. Some are pointing to Nkunku's injury, but I don't believe he's a proper striker either.
Swango1980
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I agree. Maybe not in every game (as I've not seen all their matches), but the times I've seen them they've looked very good. As you've said, they just are not putting it in the back of the net. However, what are we, 6 games in? I think people get overly judgmental at such an early stage in the season. After 6 games, apparently Spurs are no longer Spursy and Chelsea are in a relegation fight. There is no doubt fans can feel optimistic or pessimistic based on the current start to the season, but there is a long way to go. You'd think at least one or 2 teams that have started very well will drop back at some point, and one or 2 teams that started poorly will pick up better form and climb the table.
Given that Chelsea are creating chances, I think there is a good chance they'll start to pick up much better form once a few more of those chances go in and confidence increases. Of course, that still doesn't mask the fact they've spent so much money and that expectations will probably be so much higher from Boely. If he felt the money would allow them to compete for the title, I think it is still fair to say they are miles off Man City, as are most other teams. Would Chelsea have been wiser to bring Pochettino earlier, so he had the end of last season to get to know the side, and have a better insight as to what would be required to help him successfully manage the side the way he wants?
Orikoru
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Yep, it's too soon. Their weekly line-up typically has 5 or 6 players that weren't in the side last season - you need a bit of time to get them playing for each other. Maybe Jackson will find some form and score a few goals eventually.
I still think they were stupid to move Lukaku out again though. I don't know why he has a bad rep in England - if you use him correctly, he scores goals. He'd have scored 3 or 4 by now in this Chelsea side for sure.
Swango1980
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Lukaku is a strange one for me. Chelsea are not the only club that decided they'd rather not have him. Is he a bad player to have around the dressing room? Or, do you have to compromise too much on the teams tactics to get the best out of him? When he was at Utd, I was shocked at how bad he was at holding the ball up, something I thought he'd be good at given his strength. Not seen much of him since he left Utd, so not sure if he still has those same weaknesses.
Orikoru
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Man Utd used him completely wrong. It's dim-witted to just look at his size and assume he's a target man who can hold up the ball. That's not his game at all. You get him running at/through defenders and watch them
themselves. Similar to Haaland in style. Maybe Lukaku is a throw-back and top clubs don't want a striker who doesn't get involved in build-up play very much, but in an attacking side that creates chances, he will absolutely score you goals. He already has 3 for Roma this season, and that's under Mourinho, so presumably a defensive counter-attacking set-up.
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One player id love to see at West ham
Proper Antonio replacement as a bully and a better shooter for sure
Swango1980
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Lukaku is the Rolls Royce Antonio
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Antonio with actual ability
I've had this discussion on here before. He scored goals at West Brom and at Everton, he scores goals in the PL. However, he is not versatile, you have to play to his strengths. If you don't, you have a scenario as per Utd or Chelsea. Everton and West Brom set their attacks up to feed him and he did the job. Utd and Chelsea simply didn't do their homework before buying him, or if they did the manager refused to acknowledge it 
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Aztecs27
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my 500/1 bet of Chelsea, Sheffield United and Luton to be relegated looking like it might actually come inThe talk on Talksport this morning was all about Chelsea and the situation since Boehly came in
There was suggestions that Pochettino has until the end of October or he could be gone
They also mentioned a story from a meeting with Tuchel and Boehly - Boehly asked what formation Tuchel preferred with him saying ā4-3-3ā - Boehly apparently replied that maybe he should use 4-4-3
If Pochettino does goes who can they bring in next ?
Over Ā£1bn spent in 12 months and right now with the teams fighting relegation- I know it was said in jest but they are lucky right now that there are 3 teams far worse
Is there a worse run club in Prem football right now and is it down to Boehly.
Bdill93
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Chelsea have just brought the wrong players for short term success.
They've invested in players that are young, with potential and that may eventually come good and increase in value for re-sale but at present have proven nothing.
Unfortunately, as the old saying goes "you don't win anything with kids" you need a mix and a balance of young talent and real experience. Even the class of 93 had experience alongside them.
In the team that played Villa on Sunday I knew of 2 players before the start of the 2022/23 season. Sterling and Silva. Everyone else either had good seasons last year - Caicedo/ Sanchez/ Enzo (WC) or are young talented imports.
They may however in 2 years time, be ridiculous.
They've invested in players that are young, with potential and that may eventually come good and increase in value for re-sale but at present have proven nothing.
Unfortunately, as the old saying goes "you don't win anything with kids" you need a mix and a balance of young talent and real experience. Even the class of 93 had experience alongside them.
In the team that played Villa on Sunday I knew of 2 players before the start of the 2022/23 season. Sterling and Silva. Everyone else either had good seasons last year - Caicedo/ Sanchez/ Enzo (WC) or are young talented imports.
They may however in 2 years time, be ridiculous.
Orikoru
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Five managers later.
Their managerial pay offs in that time could probably clear the debt at Everton
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Those players wonāt be waiting around for two years for the team to be competitive- will be looking to play CL
Bdill93
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A large number of the players are under 23, on significantly long contracts and cost a fair bit to bring in.
Sure, teams might take unsettled players if they are selling them for lower prices but then Chelsea just make big losses which I don't think they will accept.
I don't think they stand to lose many by the end of the 2024/25 season. If they aren't playing at a high enough level at Chelsea would they even earn a CL team move?
Would you want Caicedo next summer at Liverpool if he's had a poor season this year for 100m?
One things for sure - I'm very glad its not my club in this mess. They've got too many players when they're all fit. Not sure what the allure of Chelsea has been to all these guys..
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Itās part of the issue with long term contracts, if the players have a mare itās causing to cost to sell them , if the player wants out itās going to cost them as well
Enzo wonāt want to hang around in a team battle mid table , and they will find ways to get out of the club
If Caicedo has a poor season then he will prob go for closer to his true value Ā£40-50mil
They took a huge risk with the long term contracts to find a way around FFP , if they donāt get CL football then itās going ri hurt badly , and they may end up having to sell a lot anyway to balance books - itās a perfect example of someone not having the first clue how football works
Bdill93
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I just don't see them making these huge losses with player power.
Kane wanted out of Spurs with one year left but it still took 100m to get him out.
There is no way they sell these players for less than half of what they brought them for within 2 years, they'll be in an FFP pit!
I agree, they don't seem to have a clue what they're doing . One things for sure, I'm glad its not my club!
Tashyboy
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Last time I heard of a top division club giving long term contracts was Bristol City. That went tits up very quickly.
