The Footie Thread

[Deleted member 21784]

It does when you are telling fans that are paying money what you think their job is.

I used to go home and away, even when I lived in Leeds. I gave the OS a chance and after we thumped Chelsea I never went back. I can see the stadium from my office and when i'm working late, i'd rather be in the office than in that bowl. I made the choice, but i;d never dream of telling people who are paying money, who haven't given up what to "their job is".

Edit: you should know seeing as you have been their for over 10 years. Who are the cult heros? Who doesn't get booed. 2 recent examples Carlton cole and Antonio. Pretty average players, that never stopped running and gave 110%. That's all most of us ask for.

Fed up with this English mentally towards football

So long as you run around and smile your a good player

Cole was average and even he admit but was a hero because

Haller is better than Cole but doesn't smile so he's rubbish

So many fans don't rate fornals but he is such a clever player .. now he runs a bit more he won a few fans over

Keep smiling and running .

 

[Tashyboy]

It does when you are telling fans that are paying money what you think their job is.

I used to go home and away, even when I lived in Leeds. I gave the OS a chance and after we thumped Chelsea I never went back. I can see the stadium from my office and when i'm working late, i'd rather be in the office than in that bowl. I made the choice, but i;d never dream of telling people who are paying money, who haven't given up what to "their job is".

Edit: you should know seeing as you have been their for over 10 years. Who are the cult heros? Who doesn't get booed. 2 recent examples Carlton cole and Antonio. Pretty average players, that never stopped running and gave 110%. That's all most of us ask for.

I once saw a Shaun Goater interview, he was bang average and could not understand why he got flak from the City fans. Cannot remember which player told him that if he put in a lot more effort instead of waiting for the ball to come to him, he will win the fans over. Over the next few months, he run his guts off. He won balls he never would of normally gone for. Typified when he closed down Gary Neville in the last Derby at Maine rd and scored. He is now a City, legend/ cult hero/ whatever you want.
The fans want players that try.Watching Chelsea and Palace yesterday. They should think themselves lucky that fans were not there because both teams would of had a round of shags off there own fans.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It always seems the same with West Ham fans and booing their own players , I’m not sure if it’s down to false expectations of the team or it’s just habit these days, it’s the same when Everton fans start to demand the manager is gone despite being at where you expect the club to be.

It’s no surprise that West Ham have done better since no supporters where allowed into the stadium. What do West Ham expect , is it this “mythical West Ham way to play” that they did once back in the 60’s, the same as what some Spurs go on about. I can understand if West Ham were at the bottom and struggling but they are doing well - mid table pack , where you would expect them surely

 

[IanM]

West Ham doing my acca in for me right now

 

[Deleted member 21784]

West Ham doing my acca in for me right now

Haven't beaten Brighton in last 6 games was always gonna cost ya lol

 

[Papas1982]

So should that load of crap be cheered off??

Fans do give support but it’s always been a two way thing, if the players look as if they are just going through the motions they will get abuse.

No of course not, and if you were underperforming (this season) I believe it has a place.

But you are performing as expected. So maybe after one real poor half the best option would be to encourage. That being said, thats not the West Ham way. As has been seen many a time, your ground can become a toxic environment to play in.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

It always seems the same with West Ham fans and booing their own players , I’m not sure if it’s down to false expectations of the team or it’s just habit these days, it’s the same when Everton fans start to demand the manager is gone despite being at where you expect the club to be.

It’s no surprise that West Ham have done better since no supporters where allowed into the stadium. What do West Ham expect , is it this “mythical West Ham way to play” that they did once back in the 60’s, the same as what some Spurs go on about. I can understand if West Ham were at the bottom and struggling but they are doing well - mid table pack , where you would expect them surely

It was fed by the owners saying champions League in 5 years or whatever the claim was

That didn't help

Another good goal but we don't deserve it

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Not the best game but as big Sam would say respect the point

Scored 2 in second half once we hooked noble .. he really can't be a starter anymore

Their second goal I dunno should it have stood? We had one chalked off for that before . Struck him on the hand under the shirt line and tbh if it hadn't he wouldn't have controlled it but these things happen

Got ourselfs back into it twice

 

[Fade and Die]

No of course not, and if you were underperforming (this season) I believe it has a place.

But you are performing as expected. So maybe after one real poor half the best option would be to encourage. That being said, thats not the West Ham way. As has been seen many a time, your ground can become a toxic environment to play in.

This season is completely artificial, top level football must have all the pressure of a full stadium. But I do recognise what you say about a toxic environment, as pauljames alludes to it is because of the anger felt towards the owners, taking us from Upton Park with a promise of bigger and better things when the reality is that I am watching the same relegation battles just from 50 rows further back!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

This season is completely artificial, top level football must have all the pressure of a full stadium. But I do recognise what you say about a toxic environment, as pauljames alludes to it is because of the anger felt towards the owners, taking us from Upton Park with a promise of bigger and better things when the reality is that I am watching the same relegation battles just from 50 rows further back!

Whilst the anger is just it has blinded a lot of fans towards the team

Too focused on protesting and anti board

Not great for the players

 

[Fade and Die]

Not the best game but as big Sam would say respect the point

Scored 2 in second half once we hooked noble .. he really can't be a starter anymore

Their second goal I dunno should it have stood? We had one chalked off for that before . Struck him on the hand under the shirt line and tbh if it hadn't he wouldn't have controlled it but these things happen

Got ourselfs back into it twice

Moyes is responsible for team selection, formation and tactics. He started the match with Fornals, Benrahma, Lanzini, Yarmolenko and Snodgrass on the bench and fielded a side with 8 defensive outfield players. As I said he would rightfully have the crowd on his back for that lineup.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Moyes is responsible for team selection, formation and tactics. He started the match with Fornals, Benrahma, Lanzini, Yarmolenko and Snodgrass on the bench and fielded a side with 8 defensive outfield players. As I said he would rightfully have the crowd on his back for that lineup.

We would have lost the game with fans on their back.

 

[Fade and Die]

We would have lost the game with fans on their back.

I disagree, once the changes were made West Ham were in the ascendancy, I think with a crowd they would have won.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I disagree, once the changes were made West Ham were in the ascendancy, I think with a crowd they would have won.

We would have been too far down by then

Soon as Brighton got the shots away they would be on the back. The goal would have come sooner

2-0 by half time and chasing the game more

Recent seasons our fans have cost us more games than they have won. Negative crowds cost.

Where as last season at Upton park that got us many points because they bought into what they were promised. Postive fans .

We haven't had postive fans for a while .. soon as things got hard under mp they turned back to negative

Hence why project restart has been our best form for ages.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Happy that West Ham got that second goal. Keeps Brighton within touching distance.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It was always feeling like a classic Allardyce sucker punch after the first half hour - it’s what we deserve from the second half , been really poor and let them back into it.

 

[SteveW86]

Good to see Klopp using all his subs today.

 

[hairball_89]

It was always feeling like a classic Allardyce sucker punch after the first half hour - it’s what we deserve from the second half , been really poor and let them back into it.

Absolutely. Furious. Was always coming. So clear to see. Why on earth we persisted with high crosses and dinked balls over the top?! Mane's goal came from a fizzed ball in. It was tempo WBA couldn't cope with, yet we got slower and slower.

Rubbish.

 

[clubchamp98]

Absolutely. Furious. Was always coming. So clear to see. Why on earth we persisted with high crosses and dinked balls over the top?! Mane's goal came from a fizzed ball in. It was tempo WBA couldn't cope with, yet we got slower and slower.

Rubbish.

Firmino is not a proper CF and in a game like this that’s what you need.
He’s to deep and never on the shoulder of the CB.
So crossing the balls a waste of time. what’s the point of putting a big man on at 89mins???
Salha waste of a shirt again imo.
Just no urgency from us
Apart from the header can’t remember their keeper saving anything.

 

[hairball_89]

Firmino is not a proper CF and in a game like this that’s what you need.
He’s to deep and never on the shoulder of the CB.
So crossing the balls a waste of time. what’s the point of putting a big man on at 89mins???
Salha waste of a shirt again imo.
Just no urgency from us
Apart from the header can’t remember their keeper saving anything.

Disagree with the bold. Big back 4, wingers sat back - today, as with palace last week, tempo and intricate football is the way to beat them for me. lots of 1-2s etc. and that's where Bobby shines. The difference in tempo between today and palace is disgusting, considering the time off since palace. Embarrassing.

First half we were close to being there. 2nd half we were so slow and played right into their hands. Bringing Divock on? Waste of time. But because we kept putting crosses the box.