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Thanks for sharing that. If it means we get back to level being onside then I'm all for it!

Dale's really good, one of, if not the-best sources of football/rules/VAR analysis currently getting published IMO. As he points out in his threads, had this been in place last season Liverpool would have benefitted the most as they had the most "level offside" decisions go against them. It's somewhat ironic that they got done by one last night.
 

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Dale's really good, one of, if not the-best sources of football/rules/VAR analysis currently getting published IMO. As he points out in his threads, had this been in place last season Liverpool would have benefitted the most as they had the most "level offside" decisions go against them. It's somewhat ironic that they got done by one last night.
Yeah, the heart bleeds for them. :LOL: Surprised Klopp wasn't making a bigger deal of it. Ready made excuse for him.
 

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Yeah, the heart bleeds for them. :LOL: Surprised Klopp wasn't making a bigger deal of it. Ready made excuse for him.

Nah, I haven't seen Kopp's post-match interview (yet) but I can't see how he'd complain about that one. I suspect he had many other things to complain about before that one.
 

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I thought he was just offside going by recent decisions.
That angle doesn’t show it clearly.
Agree regarding Milner,however he played better than Salah and he’s apparently one of the best 1 season wonders in the world.
Liverpool were all over the place last night,pushing TAA and Robertson up so high against Utds pace was suicide,and to our benefit they never learnt from it.
Of course we had to improve massively to create those overlaps.
Funny how ETH was actually in the technical area this week giving out instructions ,must have read my post from last week.
Need to show that level of commitment consistently now.
 

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It'll be interesting to see how Utd play against Southampton on Saturday, Should be a very different challenge. The exact same work rate is needed, but given we should have more possession, we need to make sure we don't get hit on the counter loads. Before last season we were actually pretty decent against some of the top teams, by playing on the counter, but then struggled to break down defensive teams and then could get hammered on the counter (pretty much what happened to Liverpool last night).

Liverpool at home to Bournemouth. Surely Liverpool can get all 3 points in that one, or do Bournemouth have anything that can hurt Liverpool realistically? They've been well beaten by Arsenal and City, although did beat Villa.
 

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Liverpool at home to Bournemouth. Surely Liverpool can get all 3 points in that one, or do Bournemouth have anything that can hurt Liverpool realistically? They've been well beaten by Arsenal and City, although did beat Villa.
Christ, they must be well happy with the old fixture computer. :LOL:
 

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It'll be interesting to see how Utd play against Southampton on Saturday, Should be a very different challenge. The exact same work rate is needed, but given we should have more possession, we need to make sure we don't get hit on the counter loads. Before last season we were actually pretty decent against some of the top teams, by playing on the counter, but then struggled to break down defensive teams and then could get hammered on the counter (pretty much what happened to Liverpool last night).

Liverpool at home to Bournemouth. Surely Liverpool can get all 3 points in that one, or do Bournemouth have anything that can hurt Liverpool realistically? They've been well beaten by Arsenal and City, although did beat Villa.

Casemiro should help prevent those counter attacks hurting Utd. However he'll need to adapt rapidly to the more open football they play. He's used to playing in front of a compact, deep back 4 at Real.
 
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Milner's is ideal to come on 15 minutes from the end of a game in order to help close it out. That's his role now at the age he is. Nothing wrong with that, it's an important job in a squad. Henderson seems to be getting slower but this is less of an issue when he has an engine next to him, the football brain is still working. Put the two together ?. When you make that utd midfield look decent you know you have it wrong.

How big a miss do you think Mane is? He was so good for you second half of last season.

Im not buying into this theory, people forget Mane's performances tgis time last year leading upto xmas he was poor by his standards.

Last season Mane had 2 different halves to the season. 1st half poor 2nd half absolutely outstanding.
 

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Im not buying into this theory, people forget Mane's performances tgis time last year leading upto xmas he was poor by his standards.

Last season Mane had 2 different halves to the season. 1st half poor 2nd half absolutely outstanding.
Few players do it for a whole season but the joy of your front players is that when one is flat, Salah has been since the turn of the year on the whole, then another picks up the slack. Mane was the man for you second half of last year, anyone would miss a player playing to that level.
 
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Didn't they play in the same midfield in the last Old Trafford encounter. What a difference 10 months makes

Yep and 1 half decent performance against a pretty rubbish midfield doesnt make a difference.

Btw ive been consistent with my view re Milner and Henderson. The midfield has to evolve. It has to be 1 or the other. That said i dont think Klopp could've done much else with what he had available.

Fabinho had a poor game at Fulham and not much better v Palace, so i wasnt surprised to see him benched on that basis.
 
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Mane was a great player but the replacement was supposed to already be there in Luis Diaz. He scored one cracking goal last week, I'm sure he'll be producing the goods before long and Mane won't be missed that much. I think the bigger problem is probably the lack of depth in midfield at the moment.
 
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Mane was a great player but the replacement was supposed to already be there in Luis Diaz. He scored one cracking goal last week, I'm sure he'll be producing the goods before long and Mane won't be missed that much. I think the bigger problem is probably the lack of depth in midfield at the moment.

Mane never decided to go until after Diaz was signed, Nunez is Mane's replacement.

Diaz's all round performances have been sound. End product needs to be refined but that will come with minutes on the pitch. He's shown me hes got enough quality. He'll be ok.
 
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Few players do it for a whole season but the joy of your front players is that when one is flat, Salah has been since the turn of the year on the whole, then another picks up the slack. Mane was the man for you second half of last year, anyone would miss a player playing to that level.

Salah hasnt been flat, his performances have been good on the whole, hes still scoring goals whilst he's being marked by 2 players most weeks. This is where the midfield earns their points by moving into better positions instead of standing round like 1 of Lewis's.

Going on Mane's performances this time last year we havent missed him.

Midfields win games. By controlling the game with the ball and being solid defensively.
 

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Liverpool were poor, Man Utd worked hard but did not look great except Liverpool made them look half decent. Liverpool's midfield was very poor and getting the the wide defenders up and out made them look really open.

I think Liverpool will struggle this season if they play like they have so far. Man Utd have a long way to go as well. It could be a strange old season especially with the World Cup mid season break.
 

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Mane never decided to go until after Diaz was signed, Nunez is Mane's replacement.

Diaz's all round performances have been sound. End product needs to be refined but that will come with minutes on the pitch. He's shown me hes got enough quality. He'll be ok.
You misunderstand me. I meant that they already had their ready-made replacement in Luis Diaz when Mane left. I don't consider Nunez a direct replacement since he's an actual striker which you didn't have before. Unless we count Origi.
 

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Liverpool were poor, Man Utd worked hard but did not look great except Liverpool made them look half decent.

I thought this also. ManU looked like a bottom table team having a Big Sam bounce (tee hee, I know, too easy) mainly because Liverpool let them.

I don't think they would have looked half as good against City or Arsenal right now. Or even a fully fit Liverpool.

And for clarity I think that ManU team last night would have ripped us toffees apart a good 4 or 5 nil the way they played.

The main reason I say this other than cheap digs is because I found the post-match analysis quite hilarious. You'd think Jesus Christ himself was resurrected and played for Man U last night based on the punditry. I didn't see Man U's previous match and I appreciate it's a huge step up in performance but come on. I don't want to see City run away with another league win and we need both sets of reds in good form to stop that nonsense. :D
 
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