The Belfry Rumour

[IanM]

Poor old Brabazon is on uninspiring, flat former farmland. Classic, if in doubt, did a hole and put a lake there! However well conditioned, the limitations of the site are considerable.

The (Ryder Cup) memories exceed the quality of the layout by some distance.

 

[hovis]

Poor old Brabazon is on uninspiring, flat former farmland. Classic, if in doubt, did a hole and put a lake there! However well conditioned, the limitations of the site are considerable.

The (Ryder Cup) memories exceed the quality of the layout by some distance.

The limitations?

 

[IanM]

The limitations?

It's flat.
Natural drainage is poor.
Clay based.
Etc

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I wonder how many of the boring holes, if they had a little bit of pink and pine trees, rather than oaks, would be liked much more?

 

[hovis]

It's flat.
Natural drainage is poor.
Clay based.
Etc

It's not clay based(the Derby is) You juge a course on its level of flatness?

 

[IanM]

You juge a course on its level of flatness?

Of course not, but it sure limits the ability for offering a greater variety of shots!!

 

[Ethan]

The sight itself, the current courses (design & quality) the flat land, poor drainage, potato field etc, has nothing to do with what it could be.
With the ability to move earth, create elevation changes etc, they could build something brilliant. All it requires is a top designer, enough money, and time for growth and maturing.
It's never going to be a challenger to the top links or heathland courses, because so many people already have ingrained ideas that parklands can't be better than those courses. But a new Sawgrass or Phoenix type stadium course is possible.

If it is true I'd be intrigued to see what might happen.

They would need to hire a designer in the new modern nostalgia style, though, a Doak, Crenshaw/Coore, McLay Kidd, and it would be quite a different course. In fact, they should redo the PGA National as well and go for complementary styles with different designers.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

They would need to hire a designer in the new modern nostalgia style, though, a Doak, Crenshaw/Coore, McLay Kidd, and it would be quite a different course. In fact, they should redo the PGA National as well and go for complementary styles with different designers.

Exactly - give the right man/team enough cash, and the skies the limit as to what they could do.
Modern courses, such as JCB involve huge amounts of earth moving.

 

[Blakey]

I've got a stay and play booked here in August playing the PGA and Brabazon, I was looking forward to it until i read this thread!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I've got a stay and play booked here in August playing the PGA and Brabazon, I was looking forward to it until i read this thread!

You’ll enjoy it.
The Brab is a classic parkland. Hit fairways as the rough is thick. The greens normally smooth and quick.

 

[Steve Wilkes]

I've got a stay and play booked here in August playing the PGA and Brabazon, I was looking forward to it until i read this thread!

I played it last month and enjoyed it, especially the greens and their size with severe slopes, you'll enjoy it, but take a packed lunch and drink or plenty of money

 

[MikeF86]

I've got a stay and play booked here in August playing the PGA and Brabazon, I was looking forward to it until i read this thread!

Hvaing only played the Brab but done so 6 or so times, Its really not as bad as people make out. Its got some lovely holes IMO, especialiy dependant on what your home course is like. Its certainly a special place and you'll no doubt enjoy it.

 

[Foxholer]

...
Modern courses, such as JCB involve huge amounts of earth moving.

Seems appropriate!